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Post by giuseppe on May 4, 2018 17:16:22 GMT
I'm so pleased they've finally cast a black girl as Cosette, only took them 33 years!
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Post by lena5 on May 4, 2018 21:57:19 GMT
Future dream casting: Tracie Bennett as Mmme T. She’s already played her.
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Post by kimbahorel on May 5, 2018 0:41:44 GMT
No Enj announcment then which means either big name or they haven't found a Enj yet? Can anyone find out who Andrew York is I have googled and googled and NOTHING. Ciaran Joyce is no longer Marius cover Ben Tyler is 1st and James Nicholson is 2nd. Also the new Grantaire Raymond Walsh is 1st Cover Thenardier which means James Hume has gone from being 1st Mr T. I think Andrew York is the new Enjolras. He has an Instagram page which seems to suggest he is. Would they not announced him though? The instagram was from the concert for Royal Academy of Music the other week I think the tag was just the guy who was Enjolras was in the outfit. I found him on twitter and his spotlight page eventually. It says he is a bass baritone he might be Bishop. I think they are swapping some tracks around. Also found out Ciaran Bowling is going to be 1st cover Bamatabois I am flaming ecstatic about that. So glad he is staying.
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Post by kimbahorel on May 5, 2018 6:28:08 GMT
So the Conor Maynard rumour wasn’t true then...unless...Enjorlas... Was going to thank god... but now you have me worried.
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Post by stageyninja83 on May 5, 2018 9:57:59 GMT
I think Andrew York is the new Enjolras. He has an Instagram page which seems to suggest he is. Would they not announced him though? The instagram was from the concert for Royal Academy of Music the other week I think the tag was just the guy who was Enjolras was in the outfit. I found him on twitter and his spotlight page eventually. It says he is a bass baritone he might be Bishop. I think they are swapping some tracks around. Also found out Ciaran Bowling is going to be 1st cover Bamatabois I am flaming ecstatic about that. So glad he is staying. The fact he used the hashtag Enjolras on this post was what made me think it could be him. Guess we will find out soon if rehearsals start on Monday.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 10:34:32 GMT
Enjolras and Eponine are my two favourite characters in the show, so long as they don't screw that casting up, I'm good. Elena was great in Kinky Boots so hopefully she's just as good in this!
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Post by matilda1 on May 5, 2018 13:32:08 GMT
My point is, good to see Arts Ed getting at least 5 of their recent graduates in to this production, showing that the school does exactly what it says on the tin. Well done to all of them. No representation for GSA amongst new cast members, unless I am mistaken, nor RCSSD, who also have a MT pathway. Not sure about Mountview.
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Post by theatremadness on May 5, 2018 14:29:09 GMT
No representation for GSA amongst new cast members, unless I am mistaken, nor RCSSD, who also have a MT pathway. Not sure about Mountview. Bradley Jaden, Jo Loxton, Anna McGarahan and new cast members James Nicholson & Raymond Walsh are all GSA, Antony Hansen and new cast member Barnaby Hughes are both Mountview, off the top of my head
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Post by matilda1 on May 5, 2018 15:40:13 GMT
Ah, thanks. Knew that some existing cast members were from GSA and Mountview, but wasn't sure about the newbies.
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Post by zak97 on May 5, 2018 18:44:12 GMT
Just listened to two different audios of Karis' On My Own on YouTube, and, based on what people have said here, she is so much better than I expected. A different interpretation, quite angry, but definitely not 'bad' in my opinion.
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Post by kimbahorel on May 5, 2018 22:02:24 GMT
Would they not announced him though? The instagram was from the concert for Royal Academy of Music the other week I think the tag was just the guy who was Enjolras was in the outfit. I found him on twitter and his spotlight page eventually. It says he is a bass baritone he might be Bishop. I think they are swapping some tracks around. Also found out Ciaran Bowling is going to be 1st cover Bamatabois I am flaming ecstatic about that. So glad he is staying. The fact he used the hashtag Enjolras on this post was what made me think it could be him. Guess we will find out soon if rehearsals start on Monday. Andrew is going to be Lesgles and 1st cover Bishop
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Post by stageyninja83 on May 6, 2018 10:47:21 GMT
The fact he used the hashtag Enjolras on this post was what made me think it could be him. Guess we will find out soon if rehearsals start on Monday. Andrew is going to be Lesgles and 1st cover Bishop Now I'm worried about stunt casting! They best not ruin my favourite character......
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Post by kimbahorel on May 6, 2018 13:16:47 GMT
Andrew is going to be Lesgles and 1st cover Bishop Now I'm worried about stunt casting! They best not ruin my favourite character...... Tell me about it 😣 I wonder, I know they announced a new Fiyero in Wicked but maybe just maybe the new Enj is in a cast that is half way through a cast year.... like from Hamilton, BoM or SoR? Oh please god don't be a stunt casting. We most likely will know tomorrow... maybe...
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Post by 49thand8th on May 6, 2018 15:26:28 GMT
If you're going to stunt-cast anyone, why Enjolras? I did hear a semi-credible rumor that Aaron Tveit and Eddie Redmayne would BOTH join the West End cast in 2013, but obviously that never happened. That'd be how you'd stunt-cast Enjolras — paired-up.
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Post by sempala on May 6, 2018 22:00:29 GMT
I'm so pleased they've finally cast a black girl as Cosette, only took them 33 years! Cosette has to be "fairy tale pretty" and also have an amazing voice and be able to make a rather small role stand out. From what I've seen, Ms Okereke ticks all those boxes. A case of "best person got the job" and no more, which is as it should be. I can't seem to find any videos of her singing, could you guide me somewhere?
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Post by matilda1 on May 6, 2018 23:27:46 GMT
Me neither, but there are some of first cover Hannah Grace Lawson.
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Post by daisy24601 on May 7, 2018 15:45:30 GMT
They often give the role of Cosette to someone fresh out of training with no professional experience. Given that it's a principal role in the biggest show on the West End, why do you think that is?
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Post by theatremadness on May 7, 2018 16:17:47 GMT
They often give the role of Cosette to someone fresh out of training with no professional experience. Given that it's a principal role in the biggest show on the West End, why do you think that is? Because they can pay graduates less money!
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Post by matilda1 on May 7, 2018 16:25:41 GMT
No recordings either of her opposite number Marius, also a graduate straight out of the same drama school.
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Post by 49thand8th on May 7, 2018 16:31:19 GMT
They often give the role of Cosette to someone fresh out of training with no professional experience. Given that it's a principal role in the biggest show on the West End, why do you think that is? Because they can pay graduates less money! DING
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Post by daisy24601 on May 7, 2018 19:08:16 GMT
How depressing!
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Post by matilda1 on May 7, 2018 20:26:45 GMT
Daisy, I get your point, but to be honest, if I had been offered a role in this musical straight out of training, I suspect I would have done it for nothing!😀
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Post by zermatt on May 7, 2018 20:33:17 GMT
They often give the role of Cosette to someone fresh out of training with no professional experience. Given that it's a principal role in the biggest show on the West End, why do you think that is? Cosette? Marius too, and Enjolras... loads of them. 10 years ago, you’d go and see Les Mis and you’d have properly mature voices singing the leads. Marius and Enjolras played by 25-30 year olds with many credits, 40-50 year olds playing Valjean and Javert. It sounded heavenly. I appreciate that to those who have never seen that age of cast won’t know the difference, but hand on heart it was just glorious. Now they’re casting the likes of Killian and Bradley as the main two and they could still be playing students. Supremely talented, yes, and deservedly leading men, but 10 years too young for THESE roles. Hence Jeremy Secomb was such a welcome Javert. A touch of the Quast and old school. Hopefully Dean Chisnall will bring a bit of that back to Valjean.
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Post by matilda1 on May 8, 2018 9:37:05 GMT
Yes I agree. Would you say that the same applies to the female leads?
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Post by stageyninja83 on May 8, 2018 16:48:33 GMT
One of the girls posted an instastory of the whole cast pictures and parts and it says Enjolras tbc. Odd to start rehearsals without one......
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Post by 49thand8th on May 8, 2018 17:01:13 GMT
Maybe he's currently in a contract he can't get out of to start with everyone else? And/or he's overseas?
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Post by daisy24601 on May 8, 2018 20:21:19 GMT
They often give the role of Cosette to someone fresh out of training with no professional experience. Given that it's a principal role in the biggest show on the West End, why do you think that is? Cosette? Marius too, and Enjolras... loads of them. 10 years ago, you’d go and see Les Mis and you’d have properly mature voices singing the leads. Marius and Enjolras played by 25-30 year olds with many credits, 40-50 year olds playing Valjean and Javert. It sounded heavenly. I appreciate that to those who have never seen that age of cast won’t know the difference, but hand on heart it was just glorious. Now they’re casting the likes of Killian and Bradley as the main two and they could still be playing students. Supremely talented, yes, and deservedly leading men, but 10 years too young for THESE roles. Hence Jeremy Secomb was such a welcome Javert. A touch of the Quast and old school. Hopefully Dean Chisnall will bring a bit of that back to Valjean. Completely agree. I'm sure Bradley has the talent but he just seems far too young. The likes of Philip Quast, Jeremy Sedomb, Norm Lewis have a gravitas that the younger actors don't, through no fault of their own. I think Killian pulls it off (I may be biased 😅) but I'd like to see Valjean played by older actors too.
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Post by hitmewithurbethshot on May 8, 2018 21:37:22 GMT
When I saw the show around this time last year I felt it was very "drama school", save the Thenardiers, Valjean and Javert I might have been watching a NYMT production. A former cast member said in one of Zoe Doano's vlogs that they hold auditions at some of the top drama schools, which explains all the new graduates. I suppose it gives some actors a much-needed headstart in the industry.
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Post by matilda1 on May 9, 2018 6:48:29 GMT
NYMT seems to be the go to place to find the next generation of stars. The new Cosette played Maria in WS Story five years ago. Those cast straight-out of Drama school have often played lead roles in the 3rd year productions too, Also Cosette and her understudy are signed with the same agent.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 8:14:16 GMT
10 years ago, you’d go and see Les Mis and you’d have properly mature voices singing the leads. Marius and Enjolras played by 25-30 year olds with many credits, 40-50 year olds playing Valjean and Javert. It sounded heavenly. I appreciate that to those who have never seen that age of cast won’t know the difference, but hand on heart it was just glorious. Now they’re casting the likes of Killian and Bradley as the main two and they could still be playing students. Supremely talented, yes, and deservedly leading men, but 10 years too young for THESE roles. Hence Jeremy Secomb was such a welcome Javert. A touch of the Quast and old school. Hopefully Dean Chisnall will bring a bit of that back to Valjean. I have often thought this, that the Les Mis casts are getting younger and younger. Then I've wondered if it's just that I am getting older. I do agree that the show does sound richer when you have more mature voices, but I think casting young has always happened with this show: John Owen Jones was the youngest actor to ever play Valjean at 26, when he started playing the role in London in 1998. Philip Quast was 30 when he started as Javert in Australia; and Michael McCarthy was 27. However, while they were originally cast young, I guess they did play these roles for many years, and I personally preferred JOJ's performance in 2016 to 1999. Looking back at the early Eponines, Linzi Hateley was only 18 when she started in London, and Meredith Bruan 17.
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