Xanderl
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Post by Xanderl on Jan 11, 2018 10:34:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 10:34:45 GMT
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Post by zahidf on Jan 11, 2018 10:35:47 GMT
8 years is a good innings.
Be interested to see who they get next. I think it needs a refresh: it's slipped behind the Royal Court and Almedia recently
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 10:50:25 GMT
Well I suppose I could give it a bash in the interim before I take over The Nash. Or I could probably do both at the same time really. Can't be that hard can it.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jan 11, 2018 10:50:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 10:52:31 GMT
Well I suppose I could give it a bash in the interim before I take over The Nash. Or I could probably do both at the same time really. Can't be that hard can it. I mean you’re already “on brand” with the Hot Boys In Plays approach 😁 In all seriousness Rourke has done a great job, but 8/9 years seems a reasonable point to step away.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 11, 2018 11:10:13 GMT
Well I suppose I could give it a bash in the interim before I take over The Nash. Or I could probably do both at the same time really. Can't be that hard can it. I dont think any of us want to see you giving it a bash Ryan!
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Post by Polly1 on Jan 11, 2018 11:11:36 GMT
And speculation as to her successor starts here...!
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 11, 2018 11:11:51 GMT
Blimey! Thats flown by. Donmar does need a refresh though.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 11, 2018 11:25:01 GMT
It hasn't been 8 years yet - it will be in 2019. Must be getting old - it does indeed just feel like yesterday that she took over! I guess she is being lured away by film, after directing Mary Stuart. It's been kind of an interesting period for the Donmar. I feel like her biggest 'hits' were relatively early on, with Coriolanus being the only really hot ticket, and the all-female Shakespeare productions being the major artistic achievement. I can't think of anything else that has really taken flight, in terms of popularity or impact. Then again, I feel like the Donmar has had a successful programme on its own terms, doing far more experimental stuff and not relying on star casting. It's just that is inevitably going to be less successful, in terms of bums on seats. It'll be interesting to see who takes over.
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Post by mallardo on Jan 11, 2018 11:33:00 GMT
Who is Kate Pakenham?
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jan 11, 2018 11:40:33 GMT
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Post by Rory on Jan 11, 2018 11:57:44 GMT
I know you can't (and shouldn't necessarily) measure success by the number of West End transfers but am I right in saying there have only been two from the Donmar under Josie Rourke - The Weir (Wyndham's) and My Night with Reg (Apollo)?
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 11, 2018 12:04:56 GMT
For both to announce a joint resignation would suggest there departure was forced, but then again forced resignations are normally with immediate affect, so this doesn’t seem to be the case.
Could be a great appointment for someone of the likes as Stephen Daldry or Marianne Elliot.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jan 11, 2018 12:08:06 GMT
The new Executive Director can start before the outgoing Artistic Director leaves.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 12:09:28 GMT
On the one hand, I'd really like to see the artistic directorship go to someone other than a white man, but on the other hand, I'm immediately wondering if someone like Michael Longhurst would be up for it.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jan 11, 2018 12:13:37 GMT
On the one hand, I'd really like to see the artistic directorship go to someone other than a white man, but on the other hand, I'm immediately wondering if someone like Michael Longhurst would be up for it. So far, every Donmar Artistic Director has previous experience - Sam Mendes (Minerva, CFT), Michael Grandage (Sheffield Theatres), Josie Rourke (Bush).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 12:26:04 GMT
For both to announce a joint resignation would suggest there departure was forced, but then again forced resignations are normally with immediate affect, so this doesn’t seem to be the case. Could be a great appointment for someone of the likes as Stephen Daldry or Marianne Elliot. Pretty sure Marianne isn’t going to be abandoning her own new company (pun intended) a year in...
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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 12:33:01 GMT
I know you can't (and shouldn't necessarily) measure success by the number of West End transfers but am I right in saying there have only been two from the Donmar under Josie Rourke - The Weir (Wyndham's) and My Night with Reg (Apollo)? The female Shakespeare trilogy went to Kings Cross and then Brooklyn. Not everything has to transfer to be a hit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 12:35:49 GMT
Although it will be interesting to read the job description, should it be reasonably publicly available once applications open. See if the goal of transferrable productions or at least working in more spaces than just the Donmar itself is something that gets mentioned at all.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 11, 2018 12:36:21 GMT
Still a very high profile appointment. If Company turns into a disaster like Helsenberg was, then I se it as as very possible. Dominic Dromgole could also be a possibility, his Oscar Wilde season would be done by then.
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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 12:39:26 GMT
Indhu Rubasingham would be an interesting choice although I don't know if she'd leave the Tricycle so soon,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 12:52:10 GMT
Dromgoole has already stated he'll be following his Wilde season with a Shaw season. I don't know if he means *immediately* but I think it's safe to say he's committed to being a company leader rather than a building manager for the time being. I wouldn't be so quick to write off Marianne Elliott's company leadership either, one play being a tough sell isn't the same thing as instant failure.
How long has Indhu Rubasingham been at the Tricycle? They're getting ready to reopen as a theatre, aren't they? She might feel like she's ready to move on once she's completed the project, the timeline could work very well for her.
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Xanderl
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Post by Xanderl on Jan 11, 2018 12:58:29 GMT
I know you can't (and shouldn't necessarily) measure success by the number of West End transfers but am I right in saying there have only been two from the Donmar under Josie Rourke - The Weir (Wyndham's) and My Night with Reg (Apollo)?A A few transfers to the USA as well, and also the Shakespeare trilogy transfer to Kings Cross. How many transfers did Grandage have (not counting productions which originated as Donmar West End productions)? Only one I can identify from the Donmar's wikipedia entry is Frost/Nixon. For her succesor: I was wondering about Indhu Rubasingham too, depending on the timeline of the re-opening of the Tricicle, or possibly Madani Younis from the Bush although that would look like musical chairs as he replaced Josie Rourke there. Any possible candidates from regional theatres? eg Tom Morris?
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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 13:00:59 GMT
Dromgoole has already stated he'll be following his Wilde season with a Shaw season. I don't know if he means *immediately* but I think it's safe to say he's committed to being a company leader rather than a building manager for the time being. I wouldn't be so quick to write off Marianne Elliott's company leadership either, one play being a tough sell isn't the same thing as instant failure. How long has Indhu Rubasingham been at the Tricycle? They're getting ready to reopen as a theatre, aren't they? She might feel like she's ready to move on once she's completed the project, the timeline could work very well for her. Indhu has been at the Tricycle for 5 and a half years so perhaps you're right about her being ready to move on after the Tricycle reopens. I agree about Marianne Elliott, one play not being a hit doesn't mean closing down her newly formed company.
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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 13:05:35 GMT
I know you can't (and shouldn't necessarily) measure success by the number of West End transfers but am I right in saying there have only been two from the Donmar under Josie Rourke - The Weir (Wyndham's) and My Night with Reg (Apollo)?A A few transfers to the USA as well, and also the Shakespeare trilogy transfer to Kings Cross. How many transfers did Grandage have (not counting productions which originated as Donmar West End productions)? Only one I can identify from the Donmar's wikipedia entry is Frost/Nixon. Mary Stuart, A Voyage Around My Father, Piaf, and Frost/Nixon West End wise and Red, Mary Stuart and Hamlet went to Broadway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 13:12:07 GMT
I know you can't (and shouldn't necessarily) measure success by the number of West End transfers but am I right in saying there have only been two from the Donmar under Josie Rourke - The Weir (Wyndham's) and My Night with Reg (Apollo)? The female Shakespeare trilogy went to Kings Cross and then Brooklyn. Not everything has to transfer to be a hit. For Rourke/Pakenham: Privacy also went to New York, as did Les Liaisons Dangereuses.
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Post by Xanderl on Jan 11, 2018 13:12:56 GMT
Mary Stuart, A Voyage Around My Father, Piaf, and Frost/Nixon West End wise and Red, Mary Stuart and Hamlet went to Broadway. Thanks. So not too different from Josie Rourke's record of two West End transfers (Weir and Reg) + the Shakespeares to Kings Cross, then Shakespeares, Liasions Dangereuses, The Machine (Donmar production for Manchester International Festival) to the USA. (Plus Privacy, although not sure if that was a transfer or a new production?) Plus of course a lot of work making the theatre more accessible with the £10 Front Row and Young and Free schemes, cinema screenings, and The Vote on TV. I think she's done a great job. And I guess this is more Pakenham's role - getting them out of the ATG group is a major behind-the-scenes change.
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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 13:24:04 GMT
^Donmar moving from ATG’s ownership was done by Grandage as he bought the lease and they just had to wait for ATG’s lease to run out before they could own the building and control the ticketing system
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Post by kathryn on Jan 11, 2018 13:28:07 GMT
A few transfers to the USA as well, and also the Shakespeare trilogy transfer to Kings Cross. How many transfers did Grandage have (not counting productions which originated as Donmar West End productions)? Only one I can identify from the Donmar's wikipedia entry is Frost/Nixon. Mary Stuart, A Voyage Around My Father, Piaf, and Frost/Nixon West End wise and Red, Mary Stuart and Hamlet went to Broadway. Wasn't Guys and Dolls a Donmar to West End transfer? And then there was the Donmar West End season. But gosh, how did I forget My Night With Reg? I loved that production! I guess it's just that the last couple of years at the Donmar have been comparatively underwhelming - they certainly haven't had a must-see sell-out for a while.
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