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Post by kathryn on Sept 2, 2017 18:44:46 GMT
Ooh, are they? Can you point me to them?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 13:15:45 GMT
Ooh, are they? Can you point me to them? I for one am enjoying Mark Shenton's outraged incredulity that he isn't getting in there (and presumably he would expect a plus one as well).
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Post by kathryn on Sept 6, 2017 13:35:18 GMT
Ah, yes, good old Shenton can always be relied on to have a moan - I saw his tweets.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 13:52:13 GMT
Gosh, what a whiny knickers Mark Shenton is! People don't half get on their entitlement high horse when you tell them they're not guaranteed to be able to get tickets to a show. We can't all see all the shows all the time, Mark. Welcome to the world of the average punter who has to pay for their own tickets and only if we're able to get in there before they sell out. Maybe it sucks but I'm paying my own way for >150 shows a year and I have to choose what I'm going to miss out on because I can't fit in *all* the shows on top of my full-time job; I simply cannot find it in me to feel sad that critics will best-case have to buy their own tickets/worst-case miss out all together on a whole two shows in that same year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 14:05:14 GMT
Honestly he's more drama than what's on stage (ooh unintentional pun there I'm leaving it!!) As a sometime (unapaid) critic I always thought it was my 'job' to go where I'm invited but not assume I'm invited everywhere if that makes sense? It's not a fundemental human right to be invited to shows, even if it is you 'job' to do so. Same way if I work somewhere I'm not automatically invited to every freebie dinner or drinks reception the company might organise.
Talking of critics, I see another was advertising for an 'employee' who would be paid two days a week but expected to be 'on call' via email for the rest of that time...for minimum wage. Erm how about no, and how about you do some work yourselves people?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Sept 6, 2017 14:21:44 GMT
It's a shame Shenton can't see Hamlet, I would have loved to read his review of the seats and the toilets of RADA
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Post by Jan on Sept 6, 2017 14:23:07 GMT
Honestly he's more drama than what's on stage (ooh unintentional pun there I'm leaving it!!) As a sometime (unapaid) critic I always thought it was my 'job' to go where I'm invited but not assume I'm invited everywhere if that makes sense? It's not a fundemental human right to be invited to shows, even if it is you 'job' to do so. Same way if I work somewhere I'm not automatically invited to every freebie dinner or drinks reception the company might organise. Talking of critics, I see another was advertising for an 'employee' who would be paid two days a week but expected to be 'on call' via email for the rest of that time...for minimum wage. Erm how about no, and how about you do some work yourselves people? Of course famously there was a theatre critic who didn't write any of his own reviews for years and all the other critics knew this but in some sort of form of solidarity kept quiet about it - it is similar to some other trades where their loyalty to each other ranks higher than any responsibility to the public.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 14:25:32 GMT
Honestly he's more drama than what's on stage (ooh unintentional pun there I'm leaving it!!) As a sometime (unapaid) critic I always thought it was my 'job' to go where I'm invited but not assume I'm invited everywhere if that makes sense? It's not a fundemental human right to be invited to shows, even if it is you 'job' to do so. Same way if I work somewhere I'm not automatically invited to every freebie dinner or drinks reception the company might organise. Talking of critics, I see another was advertising for an 'employee' who would be paid two days a week but expected to be 'on call' via email for the rest of that time...for minimum wage. Erm how about no, and how about you do some work yourselves people? Of course famously there was a theatre critic who didn't write any of his own reviews for years and all the other critics knew this but in some sort of form of solidarity kept quiet about it - it is similar to some other trades where their loyalty to each other ranks higher than any responsibility to the public. Indeed. Though this one just wanted some donkey work done for side projects. For which they tried to 'employ' me as a 'volunteer' and got told to shove it when they started insisting I do a certain amount of work every day before 11am. To which I replied 'I have a day job where I'm poorly paid to be at that hour'
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 14:42:01 GMT
It's a shame Shenton can't see Hamlet, I would have loved to read his review of the seats and the toilets of RADA Oh if the RADA toilets could talk they'd have a few tales to tell I'm sure...
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Post by kathryn on Sept 6, 2017 14:54:43 GMT
It's a shame Shenton can't see Hamlet, I would have loved to read his review of the seats and the toilets of RADA I've been amused by complaints about RADA box office staff barking orders at people/generally not giving good customer service. It seems some people don't quite realise that RADA isn't really set-up for 'event theatre' and the behaviour of crazy fangirls (I can say that, 'cos I'm a crazy fangirl). They must be feeling a bit overwhelmed on the box office!
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Post by lynette on Sept 7, 2017 11:32:32 GMT
Well why didn't they find a bigger place and let more people cough up their dosh to support the cause, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 12:17:19 GMT
Well why didn't they find a bigger place and let more people cough up their dosh to support the cause, eh? Because they didn't have to? It's not really about the money, it's more of a vanity project surely? Let's do it in a 160 venue space for three weeks and make it the talk of the town! It's more an opportunity for Hiddleston to say he has played Hamlet, whilst not taking too much time out of his Hollywood schedule and if he can help his old school out whilst doing so, why not?
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Post by kathryn on Sept 7, 2017 12:39:02 GMT
The funny thing is that Hiddles doesn't currently have any work commitments announced past February next year.
Presumably he is actually booked up and it just hasn't been announced yet, but it does make you wonder...
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Post by theatremadness on Sept 7, 2017 12:44:21 GMT
The Stage have reviewed and given 3 stars, though they seem to praise Hiddles. Not read the whole thing because of the damn paywall, but I haven't heard Mark Shenton throwing his toys out of the pram about Natasha Tripney from The Stage securing tickets supposedly through the ballot like everyone else like he did for the other papers that have reviewed so far?! Come on Mark.....double standards!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 13:18:23 GMT
If you go via google, the Stage paywall doesn't kick in. The article title is "Hamlet starring Tom Hiddleston – review at Vanbrugh Theatre, London – ‘Hiddleston shines’", so google that and you'll be able to click and read the whole thing.
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Post by theatremadness on Sept 7, 2017 13:20:44 GMT
That's awesome, thanks Baemax. Wonder why that is!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 13:29:10 GMT
I don't like to sound like a narcissist, but probably because they noticed my previous method of circumventing the paywall so reconfigured the website. I'm not looking forward to having to find yet another method when they realise this loophole exists.
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Post by n1david on Sept 7, 2017 13:34:59 GMT
I don't like to sound like a narcissist, but probably because they noticed my previous method of circumventing the paywall so reconfigured the website. I'm not looking forward to having to find yet another method when they realise this loophole exists. You could always - I dunno - pay, so that they can pay their writers, maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 13:37:05 GMT
You know what, I hadn't realised it was as cheap as £3.97 a month for full web access to articles, so maybe I will next time they publish something I'd be interested in reading.
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Post by kathryn on Sept 7, 2017 13:44:23 GMT
That's awesome, thanks Baemax. Wonder why that is! It's probably because the Stage allows you to access a couple of articles for free a month before the paywall kicks in - people have to read the content if they are going to be persuaded it's worth paying for - and the Google referral link makes every access look like a fresh user. Since The Stage will tell advertisers what their count of 'unique users' is to justify their advertising rates, and it'll be inflating those figures, I'm not sure that they're terribly bothered about the loophole. Though of course if they can persuade you to become a subscriber they'll happily take your money.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Sept 7, 2017 13:56:48 GMT
You know what, I hadn't realised it was as cheap as £3.97 a month for full web access to articles, so maybe I will next time they publish something I'd be interested in reading. The Stage has something for everyone - loads of intelligent, informed and sharp Features and Opinions from Lyn Gardner and many others. And, for the more woolly-headed reader, Mark Shenton regularly recycles his theatrical preoccupations - Today is Toilet Day.
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Post by lynette on Sept 8, 2017 22:42:04 GMT
Well why didn't they find a bigger place and let more people cough up their dosh to support the cause, eh? Because they didn't have to? It's not really about the money, it's more of a vanity project surely? Let's do it in a 160 venue space for three weeks and make it the talk of the town! It's more an opportunity for Hiddleston to say he has played Hamlet, whilst not taking too much time out of his Hollywood schedule and if he can help his old school out whilst doing so, why not? It is supposed to be a fund raiser. With the people available and the goodwill they could raise much more that they are going to in this way. I can only assume they thought that their production wouldn't hold up to the standard expected from a wider audience open to critical scrutiny. Of course this is sour grapes because I didn't get a ticket.
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Post by Marzipan on Sept 9, 2017 18:43:54 GMT
I saw the matinee today. I really enjoyed it. I've not been there before and I liked the space. In short:
I actually liked Hamlet himself! So often I find him quite whiny and like an overgrown teenager. Here, he seemed perfectly reasonable. (And not mad.) And I very much liked the way they handled 'get thee to a nunnery' which is normally a bit of a sticking point for me. The whole thing is frequently very funny. The gravedigger is great and works really well. The torchlight graveside scene is beautiful, and makes really effective use of the space, and was a real highlight. Those seats are bloody uncomfortable after a while. They are not messing about on the ticket security front.
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Post by kathryn on Sept 10, 2017 15:35:02 GMT
Heh. So, Twitter is telling me that Riz Ahmed was there last night and Edith Bowman is going on Wednesday. Do you think they got their tickets through the ballot?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 15:24:44 GMT
It's not his strength at all - he's no Oscar Isaac, who also sings in his Hamlet - but he can manage it. To be fair, who is? I mean . . . I need a lie down.
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Post by kathryn on Sept 11, 2017 18:46:53 GMT
Did you see his Hamlet, Ryan? He had his trousers off for about half of it.
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Post by orchidman on Sept 11, 2017 19:56:04 GMT
Heh. So, Twitter is telling me that Riz Ahmed was there last night and Edith Bowman is going on Wednesday. Do you think they got their tickets through the ballot?! In the same way reviewers have a good chance to get tickets if their newspaper makes everybody enter the draw and take the critic as their +1 if successful, imagine how many people might be acquaintances of celebrities who would invite them as their +1 for the chance to spend time with said celebrity.
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Post by kathryn on Sept 11, 2017 22:40:01 GMT
Oh, pretty sure it's simpler than that - Hiddles knows 'em both. Cucumberpatch will doubtless turn up at some point, too.
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Post by joem on Sept 12, 2017 7:22:40 GMT
Oh, pretty sure it's simpler than that - Hiddles knows 'em both. Cucumberpatch will doubtless turn up at some point, too. And then have a long rant against privilege, no doubt.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 9:07:38 GMT
Did you see his Hamlet, Ryan? He had his trousers off for about half of it. Alas no. I don't know if I could have contained myself. Oscar is probably rather relieved too one would imagine.
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