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Post by bramble on Jul 26, 2016 8:52:35 GMT
I'm afraid it is.Brash vulgar and tasteless.They even build Downton Abbey.Most of the audience seemed to love it.No Style or artistry.Insipid new songs. No charm. Not for me.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 26, 2016 9:07:11 GMT
I've been and posted my thoughts on another thread for this.
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Post by Michael on Jul 26, 2016 9:16:34 GMT
I've been and posted my thoughts on another thread for this. Which is why I've merged both threads.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 26, 2016 19:04:32 GMT
That makes me really sad. I shall be going in a few weeks with trepidation. I'm afraid it is.Brash vulgar and tasteless.They even build Downton Abbey.Most of the audience seemed to love it.No Style or artistry.Insipid new songs. No charm. Not for me.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 26, 2016 19:16:26 GMT
I've read 2 bloggers' reviews, both of which were very positive and I am really looking forward to seeing the show next week. If the show really is brash, vulgar and tasteless, maybe the genteel Chichester audience enjoys slumming it for a change?
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Post by mallardo on Jul 26, 2016 23:04:22 GMT
Five stars from Dominic Cavendish in the Telegraph.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 27, 2016 3:28:04 GMT
Three from Libby Purves (Theatrecat), who found it lacked heart.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 27, 2016 9:40:24 GMT
4 Stars from Quentin Letts in the Daily Mail.
This review and the Daily Telegraph I would think is enough to bo get a West End transfer. Wonder if this now lands in the Noel Coward?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 10:40:21 GMT
3* from The Stage 3* from What's on Stage
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 11:37:19 GMT
2* from the guardian
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jul 27, 2016 11:53:33 GMT
Lyn Gardner's review is so clinically, almost cruelly, analytical and dismissive that one wonders on what basis she awarded her second star!
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 27, 2016 12:52:01 GMT
Despite the re-writes, new numbers and general tinkering, I felt this show remained old fashioned and strangely dated. I just cannot see it being tranferred to London successfully at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 13:11:40 GMT
Noel Coward.
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Post by phantom1986 on Jul 27, 2016 13:32:38 GMT
Cameron will bring it in to save face and because of the few decent reviews. I'm with Lyn Gardner on this one. It's really not good enough besides a lovely design and some choreography. Dreadfully old fashioned and the new songs add nothing. It won't sell a ticket but then again he has the money to spare.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 27, 2016 15:56:17 GMT
If they price it right for senior groups, it could run... ....like Showboat, Mrs. Henderson and The Go Between? Cameron will bring it in to save face and because of the few decent reviews. I'm with Lyn Gardner on this one. It's really not good enough besides a lovely design and some choreography. Dreadfully old fashioned and the new songs add nothing. It won't sell a ticket but then again he has the money to spare. As phantom1986 said above - if Cameron has "money to spare" (burn) perhaps he should buy himself a banjo instead?
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Post by alece10 on Jul 27, 2016 16:36:24 GMT
5 * rave review from Evening Standard.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 27, 2016 16:53:33 GMT
Lyn Gardner really likes nothing, she is typical terminal brig of the reviewers' world. She is typical of someone deputising for the master, who has been unleashed and wants to make an impression.
5 stars from the Evening Standard.
I expect Baz will have a scoop on this tomorrow.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 27, 2016 16:54:59 GMT
Oh Alec you got there before me, I was on the phone mid post. I wonder if you are now tempted to see it? lol.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jul 27, 2016 18:21:10 GMT
Lyn Gardner really likes nothing, she is typical terminal brig of the reviewers' world. She is typical of someone deputising for the master, who has been unleashed and wants to make an impression. I daresay Lyn Gardner sees more theatre than any other UK critic, and almost certainly the broadest range, in style, scale and location. Consequently, she has about the best understanding of the context of every show and she always travels in hope, although I agree that she is usually disappointed! And she's absolutely not one of the many lazy and pathetic critics who major on whether or not they personally "like" the show. She analyses it and tells us what it is, which is what makes her review of Half a Sixpence so gloriously and definitively damning! Although, as she chuckles in the Comments, she did try to be kind!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 27, 2016 19:04:17 GMT
This would be a very risky transfer indeed.
What on earth would appeal to the general public beyond show queens etc? Nothin!
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 27, 2016 19:04:24 GMT
Okay we're on the same page that she is often 'disappointed', although I do not read all reviews generally that is impossible, so I see very little of her criticism, mainly I see her superior Michael Billington, who normally covers so much ground, especially for a Septuagenarian. As I have said on here before I find the Guardian the more earnest reviews, with others rewarding something more superior depending on their advertising budget, the Daily Telegragh and the Evening Standard are laughable,
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Post by crabtree on Jul 27, 2016 19:04:47 GMT
so does the big new banjo number replace 'If I had money to burn/buy me a banjo' or does it use both and show what progress Kipps has made? Is 'Economy' still there.
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Post by David J on Jul 27, 2016 20:11:26 GMT
Eh
This isn't a 2 star show so far
The sets and choreography are certainly the highlight of the show
The energy before Kip becomes rich is top notch from a fabulous cast whilst Charlie Stemp leaps and flips around
For the rest of the act the show becomes dull, and the love triangle is just not there with such a lack of development
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 20:46:22 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if this transferred, maybe even to the Noel Coward for a period? Not sure where else it could go
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 21:08:02 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if this transferred, maybe even to the Noel Coward for a period? Not sure where else it could go Does Cameron not have a habit of putting his shows on in his theaters?
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 27, 2016 21:34:19 GMT
so does the big new banjo number replace 'If I had money to burn/buy me a banjo' or does it use both and show what progress Kipps has made? Is 'Economy' still there. The show uses both numbers. "If I had money to burn" in Act 1 and "Pick out a Simple Tune" in Act 2. "Economy" is one of the few numbers that has gone replaced at the same point in the show with "Look Alive" for Shalford and the Apprentices
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Post by crabtree on Jul 27, 2016 21:55:14 GMT
oh that's a shame about 'Economy' as it certainly set up the financial theme
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 27, 2016 22:19:42 GMT
That is his theatre... Wouldn't be surprised if this transferred, maybe even to the Noel Coward for a period? Not sure where else it could go Does Cameron not have a habit of putting his shows on in his theaters?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 12:09:00 GMT
That is his theatre... Does Cameron not have a habit of putting his shows on in his theaters? Oh of course it is!!! Sorry
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Post by djp on Jul 29, 2016 1:09:08 GMT
Cameron will bring it in to save face and because of the few decent reviews. I'm with Lyn Gardner on this one. It's really not good enough besides a lovely design and some choreography. Dreadfully old fashioned and the new songs add nothing. It won't sell a ticket but then again he has the money to spare. Audience loved it tonight. Massively positive response. Its got good choregraphy, really really good staging, a strong ensemble sound, and a talented cast. Ian Bartholomew and the two female leads put in class acts. Act two has also got some top West End ready big numbers - even if Act 1 took ages to get to its obvious ending . Its problem isn't that its old fashioned, you could make this a good story- umpteen stories have the same basic plot - its that its book is defective . Lyn Gardner gets it mostly rIght. Its message seems to be know your place.That leaves it going nowhere very interesting. The love triangle isn't built enough- even with some really good acting from Emma Williams and Devon-Elise Johnson trying to build deeper characters.The main problem is Kipps - who is shallow, and is besotted with Emma's character one minute at the end of act 1, and drifting away as soon as the next act starts. And I also agree there's something wrong with the Kipps character. He is a drippy twit, he doesn't grow, he just makes dumb choices and easy choices. That might make a bit more sense if you had someone more rugged like Tommy Steele in the role, but essentially he's doomed to be a drip by the script.
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