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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 14, 2019 15:09:33 GMT
Cannot be the only one to not watch it, tried switched off ar series 1 ep 3 ☹ I've never even got that far, having never seen any of it, despite noting that what's-her-name looks really nice. By my usual standards, I'll start watching it in about 7 years time. Right now though, I'm kind of in the place suggested by Stewart Lee's GoT routine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 16:18:37 GMT
Characters I want to be left standing at the end: Tyrion, Brienne, Bronn, Pod, Ser Davos, Sam, the Hound, Jorah.
That list is way too long. I’ll be lucky if even half of that lot make it! :-(
Unlike Arya, I don’t have a list of characters I want to die...
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Post by viserys on Apr 14, 2019 18:52:50 GMT
#teamcersei
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Post by sophizoey on Apr 14, 2019 19:17:14 GMT
Total agreement, while she is a despicable character she's also the best written and best acted character on television. I will be very upset if Lena Headey doesn't win an Emmy, of all of them she deserves it most for managing to be that convincingly awful.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 20:25:23 GMT
I do love to hate Cersei - like many on the show she isn’t inherently evil but isn’t traditionally good either. It’s very easy to root for her because everything she does is for love and/or her children. Yes she likes power, but as a noble woman she never had any control on her own life and she now clings onto it now because it’s all she has left (except perhaps her grief).
But this close to the end? Let the dragons have her!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Apr 15, 2019 2:00:24 GMT
So many feels... a few dodgy green screen moments but overall a pretty decent episode 1
Loved seeing Arya's reactions to seeing some favourite people
Lots of good pay offs, reasonable set-ups
About as good as could be expected when you have so many plot strands to bring together
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Post by Steve on Apr 15, 2019 2:14:42 GMT
The great thing is the show is still fun, still an adventure, not just a bunch of grisly deaths, as some expected. Lots of fantastic family moments too. Wonderful episode!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 7:27:02 GMT
I enjoyed it, but aside from a few reunions and Jon being told the truth. not much happened in all honesty. Loved the opening title changes. The problem is though, isn’t everyone but Cersei in Winterfell? I assume the walkers will win at Winterfell and keep marching... leaving Cersei (and Euron I suppose) to face them alone?
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Post by MrsCondomine on Apr 15, 2019 8:25:42 GMT
Has anyone got a favourite character that isn't any of the big players? Mine is Balon lovely crochety old Balon, who was Permanently Disappointed (tm)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 8:28:42 GMT
I'm waiting on this show to end forever so that I can use HBO's 1-month free trial to see the whole thing, then cancel my subscription.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Apr 15, 2019 8:38:16 GMT
Not much action, very much like the first act in a play where the premise and relationships are set up for the fun to come as we are now down to the final few.
The cynic in me thought one scene was there primarily for the dragon flying virtual reality ride in a Game of Thrones theme park.
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Post by viserys on Apr 15, 2019 10:42:45 GMT
The cynic in me thought one scene was there primarily for the dragon flying virtual reality ride in a Game of Thrones theme park. I thought EXACTLY the same - "this is a theme park rollercoaster waiting to happen" Otherwise I'm content. Didn't mind the slow build-up as I needed to remind myself of everything that had last happened where and when and between who. And yes, it's only Cersei and Euron in Kings Landing now. But the way she smirked when Qyburn told her that the Wall had been breached, makes me think that she'll just wait until everyone in the North and the Dead have decimated and destroyed each other, then casually stroll up north to clean up. It's what I'd do anyway, in her position.
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Post by crowblack on Apr 15, 2019 11:07:59 GMT
one scene was there primarily for the dragon flying virtual reality ride There's a piece on Nerdist on this - I haven't read the books but if, supposedly, only people of Targaryen blood can ride dragons then Jon's ability to do so should be a 'sword in the stone' type revelatory moment, rather than one where you're just thinking 'oh come on, like hell he could stay hanging on there, why would she risk his life like that?' (flashback to childhood pony trekking incident where the pony had other ideas - had to grab its mane and hold on) I thought it was oddly flat, anticipated reunions rushed through and the first sight of dragons at Winterfell felt like an afterthought - it would have been much more exciting to have them rush over first (I live under an airport flight path and it could have been like Concorde or the Vulcan bomber, where you get that roar in the distance and rush outside and the cats flee for their lives).
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 15, 2019 17:19:11 GMT
Characters I want to be left standing at the end: Tyrion, Brienne, Bronn, Pod, Ser Davos, Sam, the Hound, Jorah. That list is way too long. I’ll be lucky if even half of that lot make it! :-( Unlike Arya, I don’t have a list of characters I want to die... No Tormund??
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Post by welsh_tenor on Apr 15, 2019 19:09:49 GMT
“What do dragons eat? Whatever they want.”
Brilliant scene!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 19:24:10 GMT
My favourite non-main character is Edd, but he is not quite as good in the show as he is in the books. Still, nice to see him!
There were some SUPER awkward reunions, weren't there? I cringed for basically the entire Dany/Sam scene.
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Post by peggs on Apr 15, 2019 19:30:20 GMT
Poor Sam. Her of the dragons is coming across as rather smug, i'm with Sansa. Oh and one particular scene really made me jump even though I knew it was coming.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 20:33:27 GMT
Poor Sam. Her of the dragons is coming across as rather smug, i'm with Sansa. Oh and one particular scene really made me jump even though I knew it was coming. I screamed. Reminded me of watching ‘Salem’s Lot’ when I was about 13.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 21:28:16 GMT
Characters I want to be left standing at the end: Tyrion, Brienne, Bronn, Pod, Ser Davos, Sam, the Hound, Jorah. That list is way too long. I’ll be lucky if even half of that lot make it! :-( Unlike Arya, I don’t have a list of characters I want to die... No Tormund?? Tormund, of course! Darn it. Why are there so many great minor characters in this show?!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 16, 2019 17:02:45 GMT
Watched it three times last yesterday, thought it a bit meh. A real foot on the brake of series seven. Just a big scene set and the blockbuster of Sam telling Jon. What a let down that scene was. And the dragon flying?!!? GoT goes romcom. The first three out of five stars episode since about season two?? Really can't think of the last that poor... maybe the first episode of series six.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 19:46:56 GMT
I thought that the dragon flight was tonally very odd and I am trying to work out what they are telling us. Jon nearly falling off turned what should have been a magnificent moment into a something a bit like the scene when Harry Potter first gets on a broom. Very confusing. Also, was it just book canon that only Targaryans could ride the dragons? Or did I make it up? Because Daraeys did not seem surprised that he could fly it. Unrelated, Jon Snow lives near me and I see him in the deli all the time. He is *minute* and watching him lift Arya made me realise that she must be the size of a pepper pot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 20:04:55 GMT
I liked it when Sansa met Daenerys. Not because of the side-eye, but because Sophie Turner is approximately twice the height of Emilia Clarke.
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Post by crowblack on Apr 16, 2019 22:04:39 GMT
tonally very odd and I am trying to work out what they are telling us. Jon nearly falling off turned what should have been a magnificent moment into a something a bit like the scene when Harry Potter first gets on a broom. Very confusing. Yes - it was out of character for her to be so flippant and casual about her lover possibly falling off and snuffing it (again), and (according to the Nerdist website,where they're very peed off about the scene) it doesn't fit with the series mythology where only Targaryens can ride dragons. He is one too, but neither of them know this at that point - so wouldn't his ability to ride a dragon and it tolerating him doing so be a giveaway, a Sword in the Stone moment?
I presume it's going to be their last happy moment together in the series, and that's the excuse for it being so cutesy - it reminded me of an old Mad Magazine cartoon on the laws of soap opera with a happy couple running hand in hand across a sand dune with a pit of toxic waste lurking below.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Apr 16, 2019 22:18:37 GMT
I can only imagine that they are trying to allow Jon and Dany some happiness before the inevitable misery comes crashing down
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 12:23:53 GMT
No, Targaryens are not the only people that can fly dragons. The other families that could were killed off in the doom of Valeriya.
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Post by crowblack on Apr 17, 2019 12:57:53 GMT
Targaryens are not the only people that can fly dragons Ah, I haven't read the books, I was just quoting the Nerdist article. Either way though, Jon Snow shouldn't be able to if he is who she thinks he is, surely?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 13:01:43 GMT
Theoretically, but let's bear in mind that he's been dead and come back, and she survived being burned to death on her husband's funeral pyre, so we're not exactly in a world where rules have to apply, even the fantastic ones. Or maybe she suspects and that'll come out in a later episode. Who knows?
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Post by crowblack on Apr 17, 2019 13:21:07 GMT
we're not exactly in a world where rules have to apply We are, hence all that bloodlines and Bran stuff! She survived the fire because of her bloodline, he was brought back by the red witch lady and has now found out he's heir to the throne.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 15:13:04 GMT
No, Targaryens are not the only people that can fly dragons. The other families that could were killed off in the doom of Valeriya. Only on an internet forum. Thank you for sharing your deep knowledge.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 15:16:08 GMT
Targaryens are not the only people that can fly dragons Ah, I haven't read the books, I was just quoting the Nerdist article. Either way though, Jon Snow shouldn't be able to if he is who she thinks he is, surely? Exactly. It's a book technicality that there were other people who could fly dragons. I'm now trying to remember if the series ever said that only Targaryens could fly them, or if me knowing that is picked up from reading AV Club and the like. Thanks for the reminder about Nerdist BTW. I shall check out their coverage. Vanity Fair also constantly surprised me with the quality of their Thrones writing last series. Could be a good one to check out crowblack
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