Another reason why I loved the play Wish List so much was that during the post-show discussion in Manchester (at the Studio space at the Royal Exchange) I heard a booming voice behind me and lo it was RTD declaring that a scene in it (I presume Meatloaf) was one of the best things he'd ever seen on stage. It's lovely that he's supporting new young writers and presumably came along that night specifically to listen to the talk as well (something I see David Mamet wants to ban from his plays!) - he's now a Bruntwood Prize judge and is getting back into playwriting himself.
Some people are going to be very disappointed later. Some if it's a man, and some if it's a woman.
I personally don't mind and will give anyone a chance. Jodie Whitaker isn't an obvious choice but I trust they know what they're doing, whoever they pick.
If they do go with a woman I wonder how much it will change the dynamic of the show. Some people seem to think it will affect it a lot, but I don't really see why it would that much. Another thing would be how interesting the viewership changes.
A lot of people on Twitter saying they hope it's a woman don't really seem to care about the show at all, and just want to make it a political argument. They yell and call people names who want the Doctor to remain male without listening to their arguments (some of which are probably nonsense). Calling people name's like 'snowflake' etc. is something I really hate though because it is an attempt to shut down and stifle discussion which pushes the feelings underground - and we all know how that can end up. As soon as people resort to that, I feel they lose credibility. By all means debate your point until the cows come home but avoid name calling.
I've seen both sides of the argument. On the one hand there are people saying they'll never watch the show again if the Doctor is a woman, which smacks of bitterness and entitlement over a TV show, plus a little misogyny.
Conversely I've seen people, mainly on the Doctor Who forum Gallifrey Base, being very loudly and viciously anti-male, or anti-white male. Things like "if it's another STRAIGHT WHITE MALE it'll just show that systematic misogyny and racism has got the better of Doctor Who just like the rest of the world, please ANYONE BUT A WHITE MALE" which frankly I find to be abhorrent. I know it's socially acceptable to slate an entire social group provided it's one of the pre-approved ones, but the words "anyone but a black female" would get gasps of horror so I don't see why we're all piling on the white guy because we know there won't be a backlash. Well, maybe there's my answer.
At the end of the day, it's a TV show. It's not a reflection on the "state of TV" or the world, that there hasn't been a female Doctor. It's a TV show. Doctor Who could cast entirely people called Fred with pointy noses if they wanted to, the show operates in its own bubble and therefore they have no obligation to fulfil any self imposed quotas (although far flung future stories where everyone is of exactly the same ethnicity are a tad implausible). I think Jodie Whittaker would make a great Doctor, as would many of the other female names being thrown about. Above all, I hope that they cast the best person for the role. I have this awful feeling that 5 years from now Chris Chibnall will do an interview where he proudly boasts about how in casting this Doctor they deliberately ignored a specific group (whites/males etc.) and looks for appreciation of how tolerant he is. The best Doctor should be the best Doctor. Jodie Whittaker would be infinitely better than Kris Marshall, but female would not be infinitely better than male, just because we haven't had one yet.
Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jul 16, 2017 11:06:34 GMT
The places that I checked out on this sadly exhibit the bigoted minority in all their spittle flecked glory, vowing to do harm if there is a woman doctor, I'm talking of your reddits and chans here, a safe haven for the poisonous side of masculinity. Twitter is a relatively female positive space (and that's saying something, knowing just how badly women politicians, for example, are hounded!).
A good writer will want to bring a different dynamic; we've had the change from emotional to cerebral, from young to old recently, so one of Chibnall's best options is the change from male to female, otherwise he'll be going over old ground.
One male, not mentioned much, if at all, that I'd thought of was Johnny Flynn but I couldn't see what he might bring to the table that would be different. I wasn't sold on Olivia Colman or Phoebe Waller Bridge but Whittaker has a warmth and empathetic style that I think would work well, she can also do quirky, which is pretty much a given for the role.
Not sure what that tweeter is on about, still loads of tweets containing swearing on Baynton's Twitter.
Um I'm no detective-of- Moffat-fame but I think 'that tweeter' 's identity is fairly clear
God sorry! I really didn't notice.
Going back to GallifreyBase, that forum is notoriously 'old fashioned.' The handful of posts calling sexism are in response to a lot of very impassioned "THE DOCTOR MUST ALWAYS HAVE A PENIS" arguing (and some of the anti-female Doctor posts have been extremely misogynistic, eg claiming that sexism does not exist, sexism in the entertainment industry couldn't possibly exist, it's all bloody feminists whinging, etc. etc. etc.).