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Post by alece10 on May 29, 2017 17:05:12 GMT
Wasn't there talk some time ago of one of those secret cinema things going into The Pheonix? Believe it was Moulin Rouge.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 17:43:43 GMT
That doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying. It's fine to have the best Broadway shows transfer. I for example am a huge fan of Wicked. But I don't think it's okay for the West End to be swamped with Broadway transfers and become a sort of second-hand Broadway. There are currently 19 musicals on in the West End. 12 of them originated on Broadway. 2 others have announced that they'll be closing. I disagree - if Broadway has a load of interesting shows, then the sooner they come over, the better, especially if homegrown shows aren't proving popular. There simply seem to be more successful/interesting (in my opinion) ideas on the other side of the pond at the minute, so why shouldn't they come over? Not all of us can afford to make frequent trips to New York... I can't afford to make trips to New York either. I've never been. All I'm saying is new British work should continue to get a chance, because if we don't there will be less and less good British shows. And to be honest, the likes of Waitress and DEH sound pretty mediocre at best imo. I don't understand why they should come over.
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Post by ali973 on May 29, 2017 18:01:10 GMT
I think the problem with shows by UK writers is the lack of broad appeal. They are a bit too British, and from what I remember, are really catering to an elderly audience. Mrs. Henderson Presents and The Girls come to mind.
Not all American shows are based in America (Comet, Anastasia, Amelie, Kinky Boots, etc etc). Heck, Kinky Boots had to be done by an American team and then it reached London. That says a lot. What was the last big hit from the UK by a UK team? Mama Mia? Mary Poppins? Billy Elliot? Matilda? Groundhog Day? They are so far apart, whereas in the US they chug them out yearly.
Also, with US shows, there seems to be a right combination of creativity and business sense. They tend to more "market focused" than the UK, in which they know who their shows are targeted for. There seems to be a lack of originality and imagination from British writers. The only thing remotely interesting is About Jamie.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 18:02:45 GMT
Are any of these theatres expecting a refurb in the near future? Because it may also be an excuse to bring forward a refurb and get it done before any show comes in?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 18:33:17 GMT
I think the problem with shows by UK writers is the lack of broad appeal. They are a bit too British, and from what I remember, are really catering to an elderly audience. Mrs. Henderson Presents and The Girls come to mind. Not all American shows are based in America (Comet, Anastasia, Amelie, Kinky Boots, etc etc). Heck, Kinky Boots had to be done by an American team and then it reached London. That says a lot. What was the last big hit from the UK by a UK team? Mama Mia? Mary Poppins? Billy Elliot? Matilda? Groundhog Day? They are so far apart, whereas in the US they chug them out yearly. Also, with US shows, there seems to be a right combination of creativity and business sense. They tend to more "market focused" than the UK, in which they know who their shows are targeted for. There seems to be a lack of originality and imagination from British writers. The only thing remotely interesting is About Jamie. I don't want to sound too arrogant here, but I'm writing a show that ticks all the right boxes. It's not set in Britain (or in any other real place for that matter), it's very imaginative and it's very business oriented, meaning it could appeal to a very broad audience.
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Post by theatremadness on May 29, 2017 18:39:31 GMT
I think the problem with shows by UK writers is the lack of broad appeal. They are a bit too British, and from what I remember, are really catering to an elderly audience. Mrs. Henderson Presents and The Girls come to mind. Not all American shows are based in America (Comet, Anastasia, Amelie, Kinky Boots, etc etc). Heck, Kinky Boots had to be done by an American team and then it reached London. That says a lot. What was the last big hit from the UK by a UK team? Mama Mia? Mary Poppins? Billy Elliot? Matilda? Groundhog Day? They are so far apart, whereas in the US they chug them out yearly. Also, with US shows, there seems to be a right combination of creativity and business sense. They tend to more "market focused" than the UK, in which they know who their shows are targeted for. There seems to be a lack of originality and imagination from British writers. The only thing remotely interesting is About Jamie. I don't want to sound too arrogant here, but I'm writing a show that ticks all the right boxes. It's not set in Britain (or in any other real place for that matter), it's very imaginative and it's very business oriented, meaning it could appeal to a very broad audience. (and Press Night comps for all TheatreBoard members) Wow thank you how generous I can't wait!!!!
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Post by wickedgrin on May 29, 2017 22:43:30 GMT
Oh that's easy.......TheatreBoard - The Musical. We have too many happy shows in London, we need something darker. With a lot of murder, deception, lies and existential crisis.
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Post by showbizkid on May 29, 2017 22:43:46 GMT
The main problem I find with London is that a lot the best work is in the Fringe now - Carrie, Dogfight, Clockmakers Daughter, Xanadu, Ragtime, Titanic come to mind.. They were all the best things I saw for years (42nd Street and Dreamgirls aside)
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Post by mrcompanymanager on May 29, 2017 23:37:18 GMT
Big!
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Post by Dan213 on May 30, 2017 0:37:06 GMT
Oh that's easy.......TheatreBoard - The Musical. We have too many happy shows in London, we need something darker. With a lot of murder, deception, lies and existential crisis. To be honest you could probably make the Wicked thread on this board into a musical in its own right. There's more than enough drama to last 2 and a half hours in there
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Post by d'James on May 30, 2017 0:59:42 GMT
Oh that's easy.......TheatreBoard - The Musical. To be honest you could probably make the Wicked thread on this board into a musical in its own right. There's more than enough drama to last 2 and a half hours in there It certainly wouldn't take long to write. Beginning and ending with the same scene: Five minutes of dialogue/song repeated thirty-odd times, just expressed slightly differently each time; sometimes with jazz-hands, sometimes without.
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Post by The Matthew on May 30, 2017 3:58:30 GMT
Oh that's easy.......TheatreBoard - The Musical. To be honest you could probably make the Wicked thread on this board into a musical in its own right. There's more than enough drama to last 2 and a half hours in there More like two and a half minutes, because it's the same stuff over and over again.
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Post by d'James on May 30, 2017 8:16:50 GMT
To be honest you could probably make the Wicked thread on this board into a musical in its own right. There's more than enough drama to last 2 and a half hours in there More like two and a half minutes, because it's the same stuff over and over again. . . .
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Post by d'James on May 30, 2017 8:23:51 GMT
I mean I say 'dot dot dot,' but I imagine the moderator music to be reminiscent of the approaching shark in Jaws, when it comes to Wicked; comical and repetitive.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 17:03:40 GMT
Oh that's easy.......TheatreBoard - The Musical. To be honest you could probably make the Wicked thread on this board into a musical in its own right. There's more than enough drama to last 2 and a half hours in there Interval starts when BurlyBeaR comes on stage to announce he is locking the show (thread) until everyone cools down!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 30, 2017 17:06:21 GMT
TECHNICAL PROBLEMS!
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Post by ali973 on May 31, 2017 4:12:40 GMT
Just saw an interview with Tim Minchin. He says Groundhog Day WILL be back in London- but in the end of 2018.
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Post by HereForTheatre on May 31, 2017 6:45:49 GMT
Brilliant, so a year and a half of fillers and cheap tours in some of the west ends main theatres.
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Post by stefy69 on May 31, 2017 6:53:02 GMT
Still hoping that a couple of ex-Chichester plays will make it into one of the them : Pressure and An Enemy of the People, I fear though I may be disappointed....
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Post by Rory on May 31, 2017 8:00:57 GMT
Still hoping that a couple of ex-Chichester plays will make it into one of the them : Pressure and An Enemy of the People, I fear though I may be disappointed.... I think there's more chance of more recent fare from Chichester and Bath making it in to town, such as Caroline, or Change or Sweet Bird of Youth. Wouldn't be surprised if Racing Demon from Bath with David Haig transferred. Bath seems to be transferring a fair bit recently and they might be keen to have a transfer from Jonathan Church's summer season. Not sure if the reviews for Lettice & Lovage will be good enough to warrant the risk of a transfer. Until those came out, I thought it would have been a dead cert for a transfer. They may still go for it anyway with the Menier brand and the cast and creatives they have.
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Post by wickedgrin on May 31, 2017 9:47:05 GMT
Despite my apathy for Lettice and Lovage with Kendal, Lipman and Trevor Nunn directing I always thought that this was destined to transfer. The reviews were (surprisingly) not that bad.
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Post by Mark on May 31, 2017 10:04:31 GMT
Could Fiddler transfer from Chichester?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 13:04:02 GMT
Could Fiddler transfer from Chichester? Well, lots of musicals from Chichester do transfer into the West End. It seems to be the....TRADITIOOOOOOON!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 13:08:52 GMT
I think there's more chance of more recent fare from Chichester and Bath making it in to town, such as Caroline, or Change or Sweet Bird of Youth. Didn't we have a 'Sweet Bird of Youth' at the Old Vic not so long ago? With the lovely Seth Numrich and Kim Cattrall wearing Flick Kendal's 'Lettice & Lovage' wig.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 13:21:52 GMT
Old Vic Sweet Bird was 2013. Four years doesn't seem that long, but I wouldn't say not to a transfer of the Chichester production anyway. I suspect it might not be convenient though, Marcia Gay Harden does sound like she has a very busy schedule.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 15:40:24 GMT
I would LOVE for The Bodyguard to go to the Aldwych for a year? Get it back in London! Nederland have a good connection with the show too
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 15:56:07 GMT
I would LOVE for The Bodyguard to go to the Aldwych for a year? Get it back in London! Nederland have a good connection with the show too For the love of God, let's have something new!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 15:58:33 GMT
I have a feeling (and don't judge me people, its just a feeling!), one of the two theatres will have something we have had a very recently in London, or has recently been seen somewhere in the UK.
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Post by lonlad on May 31, 2017 16:00:45 GMT
Please God no to the bloody BODYGUARD ever again --- what a total non-event.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 17:50:03 GMT
The show booked into the Phoenix has already been on..
Was a Baz Luhrman film...
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