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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 21:23:00 GMT
Must agree with those who are saying that Alfie Boe just doesn't fit. Really wish it was Hadley Fraser. As soon as I heard about the production coming over to London, he was the first person I thought would make a good J.M Barrie. I'll still go and see the show regardless. Maybe I'll be surprised. Either Ramin or Hadley would be amazing
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 21:33:17 GMT
As much as I like him I don't see ramin being quite the right fit for this role Hadley would be perfect
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Post by johartuk on May 9, 2016 21:47:29 GMT
I think that song needs a gentler voice.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 21:50:47 GMT
Check this out. For me, this is proof that Ramin would be an amazing Barrie
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 22:35:15 GMT
I don't know the musical at all but I rather enjoyed this as a standalone song. Boe only sounded properly 'operatic' a couple of times, and for me it didn't get in the way of the song. And frankly, having listened to some excruciating MT belts over the years, it's nice to hear a voice that's got some timbre behind it when it lets rip. Those hosts, though. Heavens. It's people like that that make you realise The Muppets were spot on.
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Post by carmella1 on May 10, 2016 4:51:38 GMT
Thanks for the link. I saw it on Broadway and this proves how miscast Alfie is. This is not an opera.
Ramin cannot play every role though he is perfect for anything. I believe Hadley is doing more drama with only a few musical gigs. Look at what he has been doing, far away from MT. I am fairly sure he will be with Ramin in July at the Palladium even if he is not an announced guest.
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Post by ali973 on May 10, 2016 6:26:19 GMT
I might sound like a real philistine here, but is Alfie Boe even famous to the general public? TBH I had no idea who he was before the Les Miz 25th anniversary. I wasn't impressed with him on the DVD, but when I saw the show live at the Queens I thought his voice was fantastic, despite not being typically Valjean.
I agree that Ramin would be well cast in this, but I think he ought to break away from the Phantom/Phantom II/Les Miz/big belty power ballad scores. Sure, this IS what he does and does it damn well, but I think he might need to branch out a little.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 7:25:13 GMT
Thanks for the link. I saw it on Broadway and this proves how miscast Alfie is. This is not an opera. Ramin cannot play every role though he is perfect for anything. I believe Hadley is doing more drama with only a few musical gigs. Look at what he has been doing, far away from MT. I am fairly sure he will be with Ramin in July at the Palladium even if he is not an announced guest. I just want Ramin to do another musical in the West End. From the moment I hears the Finding Neverland cast recording I thought Ramin would be perfect for it
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 7:27:01 GMT
I might sound like a real philistine here, but is Alfie Boe even famous to the general public? TBH I had no idea who he was before the Les Miz 25th anniversary. I wasn't impressed with him on the DVD, but when I saw the show live at the Queens I thought his voice was fantastic, despite not being typically Valjean. I agree that Ramin would be well cast in this, but I think he ought to break away from the Phantom/Phantom II/Les Miz/big belty power ballad scores. Sure, this IS what he does and does it damn well, but I think he might need to branch out a little. That's exactly the reason he should be in Finding Neverland. He'd be pushing his boundaries.
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Post by Steffi on May 10, 2016 7:59:20 GMT
I love Ramin as a performer but don't think his voice fits the score. He could play the part and sing it, don't get me wrong. But I'm not sure his voice would suit the songs that well.
For me Hadley Fraser is a better fit. Dean Chisnall could be a great Barrie too I think.
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Post by carmella1 on May 10, 2016 16:26:41 GMT
That's exactly the reason he should be in Finding Neverland. He'd be pushing his boundaries. Alfie is pushing boundaries just not to the desired result. Pushing boundaries is all well and good in the proper setting this is not it. In your wildest dreams picture him leading the pirates for the big Stronger number. No. As far as Ramin goes he has his lovers. I find him fine but not spectacular he has his way of always belting, and I do not like the Bluegrass at all, so do not miss him one way or the other. There are others I would prefer.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 17:04:58 GMT
That's exactly the reason he should be in Finding Neverland. He'd be pushing his boundaries. Alfie is pushing boundaries just not to the desired result. Pushing boundaries is all well and good in the proper setting this is not it. In your wildest dreams picture him leading the pirates for the big Stronger number. No. As far as Ramin goes he has his lovers. I find him fine but not spectacular he has his way of always belting, and I do not like the Bluegrass at all, so do not miss him one way or the other. There are others I would prefer. Yeah, but for Alfie it was just way too far beyond his boundaries. For Ramin, it wouldn't be such a big adjustment
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 17:07:42 GMT
Who should play Sylvia in the West End production if LMK doesn't reprise her role? I think Louise Dearman would make a fabulous Sylvia.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 17:08:59 GMT
Who should play Sylvia in the West End production if LMK doesn't reprise her role? I think Louise Dearman would make a fabulous Sylvia. This. This just has to happen. If Laura doesn't come over, I truly cannot think of a better actress to take on the role. And if Laura originates, Louise should replace should it run long enough to have a replacement cast.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 17:14:42 GMT
Who should play Sylvia in the West End production if LMK doesn't reprise her role? I think Louise Dearman would make a fabulous Sylvia. This. This just has to happen. If Laura doesn't come over, I truly cannot think of a better actress to take on the role. And if Laura originates, Louise should replace should it run long enough to have a replacement cast. It has just been way too long since Louise was in a West End show. I couldn't think of a better role for her to make her West End return.
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Post by ali973 on May 10, 2016 17:33:30 GMT
Given the amount to speculation and with Baz's announcement, it seems certain that Hamilton will be at the Victoria Palace. Such a shame, because the entire area is such a construction zone. I actually passed by it the other day and took a picture of the exterior. The entire theatre has been more or demolished from the inside. However given that it's Cameron, if he does half the work he did with the Prince Edward (which looks absolutely gorgeous) I think we'll have a very nice new refurbishment.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 17:57:30 GMT
Maybe this could go to the New London?!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:00:51 GMT
Finding Neverland is just one of those shows that I want to find success and be open right now haha. I could happily go watch it tomorrow!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:01:31 GMT
I always thought it would go into the Phoenix. We'll see for how long Guys & Dolls will run
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:02:12 GMT
Finding Neverland is just one of those shows that I want to find success and be open right now haha. I could happily go watch it tomorrow! Me too
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:02:22 GMT
I always thought it would go into the Phoenix. We'll see for how long Guys & Dolls will run I think G&D will close at the end of its period. I'm almost certain that The Girls will bag this theatre!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:04:57 GMT
I always thought it would go into the Phoenix. We'll see for how long Guys & Dolls will run I think G&D will close at the end of its period. I'm almost certain that The Girls will bag this theatre! Possibly. I just think Finding Neverland shouldn't go into a theatre that is too big. I think the Phoenix is the ideal size
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:08:43 GMT
I think G&D will close at the end of its period. I'm almost certain that The Girls will bag this theatre! Possibly. I just think Finding Neverland shouldn't go into a theatre that is too big. I think the Phoenix is the ideal size Defiantly agree that FN shouldn't go into a huge theatre, e.g. Drury Lane, it has a MUCH better chance in a smaller theatre like Phoenix, Aldwych or New London
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Post by Jon on May 10, 2016 19:16:02 GMT
The Phoenix has no wing space unless you'd want to see a massively downsized production of the show
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Post by Raven on May 10, 2016 20:46:47 GMT
Thanks for the link. I saw it on Broadway and this proves how miscast Alfie is. This is not an opera. Ramin cannot play every role though he is perfect for anything. I believe Hadley is doing more drama with only a few musical gigs. Look at what he has been doing, far away from MT. I am fairly sure he will be with Ramin in July at the Palladium even if he is not an announced guest. Ramin confirmed that Hadley was joining him in his engagement in July at the Palladium. www.cuffeandtaylor.com/whats-on/ramin-at-the-palladium
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Post by littlefluffychick on Jun 6, 2016 21:47:03 GMT
I have recently discovered the joy that is Finding Neverland. Beautiful songs and magical storytelling. Are we all looking forward to it arriving in London next year? Does anyone know exactly when it is due to premiere, at which theatre and who is rumoured to be cast yet? I'm hoping for a reprise of Matthew Morrison and Laura Michelle Kelly for sure. I love this musical and personally cannot wait! ?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 7, 2016 8:25:12 GMT
Are you judging it based on the recording only?
It's not a very good show.. And bringing it here will be a disaster, BUT I know people working on its and it IS happening. Opening Feb/March 2017.. They have a theatre and it will be announced very soon.
Why Weinstein can't just write it off as a noble failure is beyond me.
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Post by littlefluffychick on Jun 7, 2016 8:50:53 GMT
Yes I am solely judging it on the recording. I guess I like the music and its seems a gentle family show. Why do you say it's not a very good show and bringing it here will be a disaster? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts before I spend money on buying a ticket next year!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 8:54:33 GMT
I saw it on Broadway last year, and it was not pretty. It's just a bit of a mess, with some ok songs.
I still cannot imagine Alfie Boe as Barrie either!
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