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Post by cirque on May 8, 2017 19:26:07 GMT
icke directs Oedipus for Toneelgroep Amsterdam next season.....a spiritual homecoming I should think.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on May 8, 2017 20:36:01 GMT
Worth mentioning that performances are often given with English surtitles. If you fancy a day or two on the continent, 12th April, 10th and 17th May 2018 so far scheduled for surtitled performances.
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Post by Xanderl on May 8, 2017 20:57:46 GMT
Sounds great! I'd be amazed if this doesn't come to London
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Post by zahidf on May 8, 2017 21:40:53 GMT
Sounds great! I'd be amazed if this doesn't come to London Barbican next year id guess |
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Post by bordeaux on May 9, 2017 6:45:18 GMT
Worth mentioning that performances are often given with English surtitles. If you fancy a day or two on the continent, 12th April, 10th and 17th May 2018 so far scheduled for surtitled performances. I think they do every Thursday performance of their productions with English surtitles, and, I believe, all August performances. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 8:30:04 GMT
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Post by alexandra on Aug 19, 2019 12:28:29 GMT
Thanks, Baemax. I saw it on Thursday and it's one of the best theatre productions I have ever seen.
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Post by zahidf on Aug 19, 2019 14:30:32 GMT
I couldn't catch it in Edinbrugh: hopefully will come to the barbican
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Post by bordeaux on Feb 23, 2021 16:59:42 GMT
This is on at the ITA online on Sunday 21st March. I had a slight pang when looking for this thread and saw that in late 2019 we were getting exciting about a West End version also directed by Icke with Helen Mirren and Mark Strong.... Anyway, looking on the bright side, things may start getting going in three or four months...
On 7th March they are showing something called La Reprise which Billington gave four stars to at Edinburgh. Directed by Milo Rau, about the murder of a gay man.
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Post by Jan on Feb 24, 2021 19:41:41 GMT
This is on at the ITA online on Sunday 21st March. I had a slight pang when looking for this thread and saw that in late 2019 we were getting exciting about a West End version also directed by Icke with Helen Mirren and Mark Strong.... Anyway, looking on the bright side, things may start getting going in three or four months... On 7th March they are showing something called La Reprise which Billington gave four stars to at Edinburgh. Directed by Milo Rau, about the murder of a gay man. I saw an interview recently with Helen Mirren which indicated she was still planning to do this but of course it was uncertain when. |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 1, 2021 19:16:56 GMT
I saw A Little Life (ITA) and was excellent, subtitles didn't distract from the acting at all.
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Post by scarpia on Mar 3, 2021 18:42:11 GMT
I caught this in Edinburgh and thought it was well written and acted. The only problem was the odd choice to situate most of the action at a table that was so far stage left that it could barely be seen by a lot of the audience, but that wouldn't be a problem in a filmed version for online.
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Post by bordeaux on Apr 30, 2021 14:07:19 GMT
'Coming soon' according the latest email from Sonia Friedman Productions.
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Post by Jon on May 18, 2022 19:21:32 GMT
Sonia Friedman mentioned in her interview with Baz that Oedipus is still happening but without Helen Mirren as she has a scheduling conflict which I assume is 1932, the Yellowstone prequel. Role is being recast but Mark Strong is still attached.
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Post by nottobe on May 18, 2022 20:18:40 GMT
Shame Mirren is no longer attached but wonder who may replace her. Charlotte Rampling would be my pick.
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Post by Jon on May 18, 2022 20:19:59 GMT
Shame Mirren is no longer attached but wonder who may replace her. Charlotte Rampling would be my pick. I was thinking Kristin Scott Thomas. |
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Post by jaggy on May 18, 2022 23:43:43 GMT
Disappoint but not surprised to hear Mirren is no long attached. I doesn't seem like she ever has a day off. She's always booked and busy. I wonder if they're going to try and get a name that's on par with Mirren's.
I like the Rampling suggestion. I would love someone like Fiona Shaw. Scott Thomas would be good too.
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Post by Jan on May 19, 2022 6:48:16 GMT
Disappoint but not surprised to hear Mirren is no long attached. I doesn't seem like she ever has a day off. She's always booked and busy. I wonder if they're going to try and get a name that's on par with Mirren's. I like the Rampling suggestion. I would love someone like Fiona Shaw. Scott Thomas would be good too. Mark Strong is 58. Fiona Shaw is 63. Scott Thomas is 61. So not in contention really. Can't imagine Rampling doing it, I've seen her on stage but not often. Helen Mirren is 76. Frances de la Tour is 77. That's the sort of age. Penelope Wilton 75. Janet Suzman 83. Or if they have a Broadway transfer in mind there are more options like Glenn Close (75). |
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Post by adolphus on May 19, 2022 9:43:15 GMT
The last version I saw had Ralph Fiennes and Claire Higgins. She's only about 6 years older than him.
I'd enjoy Sinead Cusack, Harriet Walter or Jessica Lange doing this
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Post by bordeaux on May 19, 2022 10:35:48 GMT
In theory their real-world ages don't matter; what matters is the age they can act. How old are the characters supposed to be? Oedipus about 40, Jocasta about 60?
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Post by Jan on May 19, 2022 10:55:49 GMT
In theory their real-world ages don't matter; what matters is the age they can act. How old are the characters supposed to be? Oedipus about 40, Jocasta about 60? In practice I'm not sure telling Kristin Scott Thomas they want her to play Mark Strong's mother would meet with much success. I saw the Fiennes version. I also saw the Peter Hall NT version before that with Alan Howard - Jocasta seems to have been played by Suzanne Bertish who was 14 years younger than Howard at the time - is that right ? |
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Post by jaggy on May 19, 2022 11:35:00 GMT
Disappoint but not surprised to hear Mirren is no long attached. I doesn't seem like she ever has a day off. She's always booked and busy. I wonder if they're going to try and get a name that's on par with Mirren's. I like the Rampling suggestion. I would love someone like Fiona Shaw. Scott Thomas would be good too. Mark Strong is 58. Fiona Shaw is 63. Scott Thomas is 61. So not in contention really. Can't imagine Rampling doing it, I've seen her on stage but not often. Helen Mirren is 76. Frances de la Tour is 77. That's the sort of age. Penelope Wilton 75. Janet Suzman 83. Or if they have a Broadway transfer in mind there are more options like Glenn Close (75). Mark Strong is 58? I thought he was younger. He looks good for his age. They may be able to get away with it but maybe it would be pushing it. May I ask, what did you see Rampling in and was she any good onstage? |
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Post by Jan on May 19, 2022 11:44:52 GMT
Mark Strong is 58. Fiona Shaw is 63. Scott Thomas is 61. So not in contention really. Can't imagine Rampling doing it, I've seen her on stage but not often. Helen Mirren is 76. Frances de la Tour is 77. That's the sort of age. Penelope Wilton 75. Janet Suzman 83. Or if they have a Broadway transfer in mind there are more options like Glenn Close (75). Mark Strong is 58? I thought he was younger. He looks good for his age. They may be able to get away with it but maybe it would be pushing it. May I ask, what did you see Rampling in and was any good onstage? She was in "The False Servant" by Marivaux at NT in 2004 with Nancy Carroll and Adrian Scarborough, directed by Jonathan Kent. She was fine but (unusually) the direction by Jonathan Kent was a real mess and it was quite a tedious evening. I'm hoping the forthcoming Orange Tree version is better. |
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Post by alexandra on May 20, 2022 13:09:18 GMT
You're being too literal. Of the pair who played it in Amsterdam (and Edinburgh), Hans Kesting, who has a similar energy to Mark Strong's, is a couple of years older than Marieke Heebink. It worked beautifully.
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Post by Jan on May 20, 2022 16:08:24 GMT
You're being too literal. Of the pair who played it in Amsterdam (and Edinburgh), Hans Kesting, who has a similar energy to Mark Strong's, is a couple of years older than Marieke Heebink. It worked beautifully. OK. Let me try this: there are so few major parts available for actresses over 70 that only actresses over 70 should play them. Any good ? |
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Post by cavocado on May 20, 2022 18:15:03 GMT
You're being too literal. Of the pair who played it in Amsterdam (and Edinburgh), Hans Kesting, who has a similar energy to Mark Strong's, is a couple of years older than Marieke Heebink. It worked beautifully. OK. Let me try this: there are so few major parts available for actresses over 70 that only actresses over 70 should play them. Any good ? Well said Jan. |
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Post by alexandra on May 21, 2022 12:00:29 GMT
Better argument (and decent sidestep) but no reason to exclude women actors over 60 - there aren't enough parts for them either.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on May 21, 2022 12:56:59 GMT
You're being too literal. Of the pair who played it in Amsterdam (and Edinburgh), Hans Kesting, who has a similar energy to Mark Strong's, is a couple of years older than Marieke Heebink. It worked beautifully. OK. Let me try this: there are so few major parts available for actresses over 70 that only actresses over 70 should play them. Any good ? Weren’t you complaining just the other week about how unfair it is that famous actors who are not from a marginalised minority group are “banned” from playing characters written as being of that minority group, and that actors should be allowed to play any role? |
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Post by Jan on May 21, 2022 16:25:13 GMT
OK. Let me try this: there are so few major parts available for actresses over 70 that only actresses over 70 should play them. Any good ? Weren’t you complaining just the other week about how unfair it is that famous actors who are not from a marginalised minority group are “banned” from playing characters written as being of that minority group, and that actors should be allowed to play any role? Yes. I was just testing the water to see if actresses over 70 were a similarly protected minority group. There seems to be no consensus which is a bit of a problem. They can cast who they like as far as I’m concerned, I mean I wouldn’t want to confine it to actresses over 70 due to the risk of only Maureen Lipman being available. But my guess it will be someone of similar age and status to Mirren. |
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