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Post by infofreako on Jul 22, 2017 21:50:41 GMT
I just want to respond to the white Simba and white Effie nonsense first. Performers who are black, Latin, etc welcome playing roles that are traditionally white, I'm sure, such as this example in Frozen. But in reality, I am sure they are more at ease and interested in playing roles that don't require this kind of masquerade or blind casting. Roles written with POC in mind in musical theatre specifically are far and few in between, where the overwhelming majority of roles are written for (and are cast with) caucasians. So when once in a blue moon an Effie, Simba, or Rachel Marron comes along, let's not say that a white performer is also entitled for consideration. Where does that sit with the white Simba mentioned in the post immediately before yours. If a white Simba is nonsense clearly that wouldnt have happened
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Post by sushisamba on Aug 1, 2017 14:31:02 GMT
'Official trailer' apparently...
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Post by ali973 on Aug 1, 2017 18:37:41 GMT
I was actually pretty surprised at how much they've revealed (though it's really just a rehearsal), considering it doesn't open on Broadway until next year. Normally Disney is very hush hush about their products.
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Post by daniel on Aug 4, 2017 16:33:59 GMT
A first look at the new artwork, and the designs that didn't make the cut.
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Post by ali973 on Aug 4, 2017 16:55:03 GMT
^ Thank you. I saw the poster release but didn't know there was an article about the different trials. Gonna make myself a snack and read away
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Post by Jon on Aug 4, 2017 18:25:38 GMT
I quite like some of the rejected designs like the sci-fi one. The final version is good but I wouldn't be surprised if it changed again before Broadway, happened with Aladdin which had a different logo for the pre Broadway tryout in Toronto
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 22:27:15 GMT
I would have voted for the "too safe" one. But they would need to make Elsa look more like the letter R...somehow.
But I agree, I wouldn't be surprised if it changed before Broadway. I do love seeing artwork development for shows before the final well-known thing, especially if they're out of town. I still have the Matilda leaflet from the RSC with the Quentin Blake illustrations, and even the original Mary Poppins leaflet and programme with the cherry tree petals!
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 4, 2017 22:33:57 GMT
A really interesting article, thanks for posting daniel! And re: the Matilda artwork as mentioned above, I don't think any of their changes have ever been as good as their original with a multitude of colour. The whole dark blue/white thing does hardly anything to represent the glory of that musical!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 22:51:24 GMT
A really interesting article, thanks for posting daniel! And re: the Matilda artwork as mentioned above, I don't think any of their changes have ever been as good as their original with a multitude of colour. The whole dark blue/white thing does hardly anything to represent the glory of that musical! I didn't mind when the Matilda artwork first went to blue and white (like the US and Aus/NZ productions look like now), but at some point early last year the London artwork (and now UK tour) turned even darker blue, the font was less playful and less flying letters were visable so now it looks dreadful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 23:26:08 GMT
I really didnt see the 2 faces until i read it in the text. Until then i thought a big snowflake was just stupid. Now i really like it.
I really like the knitted 'too playful' version! Perfect as a christmas time alternative.
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Post by ali973 on Aug 5, 2017 8:48:05 GMT
I too didn't see the two faces, and only spotted the "Let it Go" figure in the middle of the snow flake. I love the two faces now that I see them. It's like the helicopter in the Miss Saigon poster.
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Post by anthony40 on Aug 5, 2017 21:12:58 GMT
And the two faces reminds me of the girls exposing their naked backs in the petals of the sunflowers in the poster for The Girls musical.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 22:08:21 GMT
And the two faces reminds me of the girls exposing their naked backs in the petals of the sunflowers in the poster for The Girls musical. Wow! I never saw that before. I had to go check to see if you were joking lol
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Post by vabbian on Aug 6, 2017 11:15:47 GMT
Russell Tovey as Elsa!!!!!!
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Post by daniel on Aug 6, 2017 18:13:28 GMT
Is anybody on here going to see the tryout? Michael?
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Post by Michael on Aug 6, 2017 18:31:58 GMT
I'd have loved to but couldn't make it work in the end.
Will have to wait for the Broadway production next year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 22:48:54 GMT
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Post by ali973 on Aug 12, 2017 10:04:41 GMT
Anyone got a pre-sale code they don't want?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 14:55:51 GMT
Just got tickets for 16 March
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Post by viserys on Aug 14, 2017 16:26:39 GMT
Not going to book any time soon as I have no plans to go to NY, but I got their e-mail today and took a look out of curiosity. Still plenty of availability, nothing like the Hamilton crazy. And I was pleasantly surprised by the pricing with decent seats available for $140. Maybe in 2019...
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Post by ali973 on Aug 14, 2017 17:37:57 GMT
I got my tickets too, for June 2018.
I was comforted some days ago by viserys that it wouldn't be the Hamilton mayhem as well. Tickets weren't hard to get. It took some time and experimenting, but I pretty much got around the time I wanted within 15 minutes, including the time it took to ask for a new password and change it.
okay, so how soon can we get either footage or pictures from the run in Denver?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 17:53:37 GMT
I'm extremely unexcited about this show. For some reason I'm not sure this will run very long. The movie has been so overhyped that I've become bored of it. Also, the show is incredibly expensive with a big cast and orchestra. This reminds me of the spiderman musical.
And with the new songs for Elsa in both acts, it will get even more similar to Wicked than it already was. The casting of a former Elphaba and former Glinda as Elsa and Anna only adds to this.
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Post by ali973 on Aug 14, 2017 18:59:42 GMT
I'm extremely unexcited about this show. For some reason I'm not sure this will run very long. The movie has been so overhyped that I've become bored of it. Also, the show is incredibly expensive with a big cast and orchestra. This reminds me of the spiderman musical. And with the new songs for Elsa in both acts, it will get even more similar to Wicked than it already was. The casting of a former Elphaba and former Glinda as Elsa and Anna only adds to this. It's a Wicked knockoff, that's for sure, but more people have heard of Frozen than Wicked. I think there's still space and interest in it, but it will really depend on the word of mouth. I think it has the potential to do well. It's been a while since Broadway has seen a mega-musical, and this one is probably going to be taking that title. Wicked is what, fourteen years old now? I think there's appetite for over the top crazy stage effects and magic.
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Post by viserys on Aug 14, 2017 19:24:19 GMT
I think there's appetite for over the top crazy stage effects and magic. Definitely. The big question is: Will Disney deliver? How old is Lion King now? 20 years? Disney hasn't had a real stage success since. Tarzan and The Little Mermaid flopped and Aladdin has been moderately successful at best. Frozen's biggest problem may be Harry Potter actually: Families will probably be keener to try and get tickets to a "new" Potter story than an adaptation of something that's been really really ubiquitous for the last years.
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Post by ali973 on Aug 14, 2017 19:35:52 GMT
Yes to all. And I completely forgot about the Harry Potter effect.
I think Disney will deliver on this one. It's just too important to f*ck up, and they've been workshopping it basically since the movie came out. True, they fired half of the creative team and their first Elsa, but it looks like they're confident about it. I'm actually very surprised that it was fast tracked from workshops to an out of town preview so quickly.
We'll see. It opens in Denver next week? I'm sure Broadwayworld will be flooded with reports.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 21:17:51 GMT
I'm extremely unexcited about this show. For some reason I'm not sure this will run very long. The movie has been so overhyped that I've become bored of it. Also, the show is incredibly expensive with a big cast and orchestra. This reminds me of the spiderman musical. And with the new songs for Elsa in both acts, it will get even more similar to Wicked than it already was. The casting of a former Elphaba and former Glinda as Elsa and Anna only adds to this. It's a Wicked knockoff, that's for sure, but more people have heard of Frozen than Wicked. I think there's still space and interest in it, but it will really depend on the word of mouth. I think it has the potential to do well. It's been a while since Broadway has seen a mega-musical, and this one is probably going to be taking that title. Wicked is what, fourteen years old now? I think there's appetite for over the top crazy stage effects and magic. True, there definitely is an appetite for crazy effects. I just wish they did it with a more original story.
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Post by showbizkid on Aug 14, 2017 21:54:14 GMT
I personally think it all sets down to these will the new songs be as good or even better? We've all seen the Hyperion Disney show version - the Let It Go sequence is fabulous, and that's just a theme park production! I can't see how they can better that! We all know the story works and the book is super. It's all about the new material.
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Post by ali973 on Aug 15, 2017 4:33:06 GMT
The bar isn't high with the current song, with exception to Let It Go which will not be outsung, out performed, or out staged. The other songs are good enough and average, so I think the other fourteen or so songs they wrote for the staged version which will be better.
And I can agree that the current production playing in Disney is nice enough, but it's a kid's show and is basically the cartoon on stage. The Broadway version will need to be a lot more independent and its own beast with its own material.
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Post by LaLuPone on Aug 15, 2017 16:38:45 GMT
I want to see this so bad! It was Frozen that in a way got me into theatre. Any guesses on how many years it will take to transfer to London?
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