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Post by crowblack on Sept 10, 2017 14:24:26 GMT
Btw, I agree about the foyer. The coffee isn't great, either.
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Post by joem on Sept 15, 2017 23:35:20 GMT
I think this had more good than bad. I don't think it's a "womans' play" just because the two leads are female.
The mix of science and personal stories was at times awkward but, for me, made the science more palatable than say, Copenhagen, where the supposed drama of the context of the meeting between the two scientists was rather lost amongst the dry science.
Perhaps the difference in tone between the two halves was problematic, the Boson scenes a bit exaggerated which clashed with the realism of the battle of wits between the two sisters and their mum (quite Tennessee Wlliams in a way, that aspect).
I've read comments here that it has "too many ideas", which is perhaps a valid criticism, but on the other hand it is refreshing for a playwright to throw out ideas. Perhaps, I suggest, there were "too mnay stories"?
65% for me. Somewhere between 3 and 3.5 out of 5. I wouldn;t discourage anyone from seeing it.
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Post by zak97 on Sept 17, 2017 9:59:35 GMT
Absolutely loved this. I found the characters interesting and relatable, brilliant cast and good narrative. Liked the use of lightning and design and sound too.
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Post by n1david on Sept 18, 2017 10:37:15 GMT
Very short notice I know but I now have a spare ticket for today’s platform with the two Olivias today at 3pm. No payment necessary as the ticket would otherwise be going to waste. Please message if you’re interested.
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Post by tmesis on Sept 23, 2017 21:48:47 GMT
Didn't enjoy this much at all. It's been said before but it's WAY too long. The Olivia's were good but frankly I couldn't care less about any of the characters. The mother was extremely annoying and unbelievable and the 'teenagers' must be the oldest on the London stage. Kirkwood gives them really patronising dialogue that wasn't remotely credible.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 24, 2017 10:05:03 GMT
the 'teenagers' must be the oldest on the London stage A few of you have said this. The average age of stage 'teenagers' seems to be mid-to-late 20s - Luke Treadaway was 27/28 when Curious Incident started, the History Boys mid-to-late 20s, Pitchfork Disney's Tom Rhys-Harries 25/26, The Ferryman's Fra Fee is 30. Most Hamlets are nearer Uncle Monty's age than a student's. In Mosquitoes, Barclay is late 20s and Quinn is just 23. Kirkwood used to write for TV's teen soap 'Skins', and I thought Jenny and the teenagers were the most well-written characters (maybe that reflects my memories of being a teen and the sort of people I know?) - it was the old mother and the Quaker boyfriend I found least convincing (those two scenes before the interval).
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Post by tmesis on Sept 24, 2017 12:56:10 GMT
the 'teenagers' must be the oldest on the London stage A few of you have said this. The average age of stage 'teenagers' seems to be mid-to-late 20s - Luke Treadaway was 27/28 when Curious Incident started, the History Boys mid-to-late 20s, Pitchfork Disney's Tom Rhys-Harries 25/26, The Ferryman's Fra Fee is 30. Most Hamlets are nearer Uncle Monty's age than a student's. In Mosquitoes, Barclay is late 20s and Quinn is just 23. Kirkwood used to write for TV's teen soap 'Skins', and I thought Jenny and the teenagers were the most well-written characters (maybe that reflects my memories of being a teen and the sort of people I know?) - it was the old mother and the Quaker boyfriend I found least convincing (those two scenes before the interval). I've been teaching teenagers for 42 years and although I felt she captured some of the gaucheness and embarrassment it was way too 'broad brush' and unsubtle; also the acting of the two 'teens' was not nuanced enough.
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Post by showgirl on Sept 24, 2017 14:20:04 GMT
Also, there must surely be some teenagers who don't use that annoying "uptalk"?
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Post by tmesis on Sept 24, 2017 15:23:44 GMT
Also, there must surely be some teenagers who don't use that annoying "uptalk"? That does seem, at last, to be on the decrease.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 24, 2017 16:53:09 GMT
it was way too 'broad brush' and unsubtle; also the acting of the two 'teens' was not nuanced enough. I saw it in preview and then again three weeks or so ago. It was more naturalistic and darker in preview, and some lines have been altered and scenes tuned more for comedy after the August break. The second time I was there, Kirkwood was around and I think it may have been cut again (it was 2hrs 50 both times I saw it, but comments here say it now runs 2hrs 40). I think the preview version was a more interesting, jagged play with more of a sense of danger, but the audience definitely enjoyed the smoother, more broadly and physically comic later version more. (There's a lot of 'mores' in this comment!)
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Post by crowblack on Sept 26, 2017 18:01:15 GMT
Btw, the interview with the Olivias from last week is now on the NT's Youtube, and there's a nice little rehearsal video clip on their Facebook page.
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Post by michalnowicki on Sept 28, 2017 20:35:22 GMT
Finally saw it on Tuesday (matinee). Both Olivias were fantastic. They played sisters really well, brilliantly showing the chemistry of siblings. The play itself was a bit 'meh' but I liked how the stage in Dorfman is being used (never seen anything there). As for the teenagers, they were like, totally, like... I can't even like... OMG, WTF, etc... Cringed a lot watching them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 13:25:34 GMT
So Dame Olivia Colman (it will happen mark my words) did have a touch of stage fright as suggested . . . I Can't Go On!!!
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Post by crowblack on Oct 27, 2017 9:44:16 GMT
...will regenerate into The Queen on Netflix. Imminent Damehood and Maggie Smith status ahoy. But who'll be her consort? And does that mean I'm going to have to watch it?
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Post by crowblack on Nov 4, 2017 18:00:46 GMT
Future Dame scheduled to be on Andrew Marr tomorrow morning, btw.
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Post by crowblack on Jun 5, 2018 13:07:19 GMT
Casting just announced for the Channel 4 Chimerica btw, so I presume filming has started - it includes Sophie Okonedo. The new series of Flowers with Olivia Colman starts on Monday.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 5, 2018 13:08:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 14:27:58 GMT
Oooooh, Alessandro Nivola.
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