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Post by daniel on Apr 1, 2017 11:41:39 GMT
so if you were to purchase them and have them posted, the chances of getting checked are slim to zero. And your chances of getting a criminal record for obtaining financial advantage by deception are pretty high if you do get caught. Equally true!
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Post by HereForTheatre on Apr 1, 2017 14:47:01 GMT
It seems an interesting one to bring over for a tour. The same guy brought over Wonderland but that's instantly a lot more recognisable and sellable (and even that's not really happening...) because it's linked to Alice In Wonderland, which everyone has at least heard of. How many people actually know about the Bring It On movies?
Also, i hope they put a bit more money and effort into this than they did Wonderland because i wasn't that impressed, thought to be fair my judgement on the production was slightly motivated by the particular performance i went to having hilarious technical issues and goofs that made it seem a bit like a performance of The Play That Goes Wrong.
Who is directing?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 15:32:46 GMT
It seems an interesting one to bring over for a tour. The same guy brought over Wonderland but that's instantly a lot more recognisable and sellable (and even that's not really happening...) because it's linked to Alice In Wonderland, which everyone has at least heard of. How many people actually know about the Bring It On movies? Well this show isn't really based on the movies strangely (only the basic themes). But I would say there's an entire generation of people in their 20s/30s that know of them. I would think it wouldn't have been brought over if it wasn't for Hamilton taking off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 16:02:48 GMT
Despite being the right age demographic I'd never seen the film (s) when I saw this on Broadway- it was a case of good discount and love of dance based shows, and I loved it. Shame it's not coming anywhere near me on tour alas.
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Post by WireHangers on Apr 1, 2017 22:55:21 GMT
Fantastic! I saw the Australian tour about two years and absolutely loved it! It really is a sickly sweet show that will make you want to go out and dance afterwards. Although the musical is loosely based on the third movie I reckon it'll still sell well due to the franchise name, which is still massively popular with 90's kids who now have disposable income. Really looking forward to it.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 0:03:54 GMT
The issue i find with the score, and maybe I will feel different after watching the show, but there is really only one memorable song in the entire show "It's All Happening". Heresy! There is so much joy in the Bring it On score. Can't wait for this.
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Post by dlevi on May 18, 2017 17:12:43 GMT
First Wonderland and now this? Neil Eckersley is the kamikaze pilot of producers - what's next? Tuck Everlasting?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 13:40:57 GMT
Anyone heard anything of cast or creatives for this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 14:21:49 GMT
Anyone heard anything of cast or creatives for this? Radio silence still in force. Should be going into rehearsal imminently I'd imagine so cant be too far off an announcement.
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Post by lovingtheatre2k17 on Jul 19, 2017 14:35:44 GMT
Oh god I hope this is not an awful perception of competitive cheerleading, as the bring it on movies are far from the truth and it is nearly being recognised as a sport and if this perceived incorrectly, it makes cheerleading even further from being a sport.
I may be biased as I do do cheerleading, but anyway
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 15:29:50 GMT
Anyone heard anything of cast or creatives for this? It's in auditions at the moment.
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Post by music0fthenight on Jul 19, 2017 16:44:54 GMT
As someone who's grown up watching the films, they were never meant to be an accurate inside into the world of cheering, more so a dramatisation of the activity with the "spirit stick" , cheer gods and cheer bible. It pokes fun at how seriously it's taken.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 10:39:39 GMT
Tried searching but please merge if I've missed it.
WMC just announced for 7-12 May 2018 and I did a happy dance in my seat.
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Post by theatremadness on Aug 7, 2017 10:43:56 GMT
Hm that's interesting! It's the same producer as Wonderland, so I'd save those happy dance moves for the moment!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:06:02 GMT
Bump for any news
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:07:08 GMT
Theres definitely a thread for it, as I've posted in it, but the search engine couldn't find it, dug deep in my profile postings and bumped the original thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:15:17 GMT
BurlyBeaR merge threads maybe? search fail on my behalf there.
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Post by Michael on Aug 7, 2017 11:23:07 GMT
Tried searching but please merge if I've missed it.
Your wish is my command Proboards search does have its bugs, but you can easily use Google to search on here: site:theatreboard.co.uk bring it on
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 11:35:03 GMT
Brilliant thanks! (TBH it was probably my fail not the board's haha!)
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Post by londonland on Aug 7, 2017 12:06:25 GMT
Do we know who's producing it? It's Neil Eckersley/Speckulation Entertainment (behind the current Wonderland tour) What are the chances of this still going ahead after what happened to Wonderland? I do not seem to find any news online about the cast and the tour is supposed to start in around a month. Edit: ooops, sorry, did not see theatremadness' recent post. We are all still left to wonder(land) then!
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Post by daniel on Aug 7, 2017 12:30:28 GMT
I think it will still go ahead. For the same reason that he always seems able to continue producing shows every time one goes under. Each show that he produces (and for the industry in general) is a whole separate company, a legal entity in its own right. For example something like Wonderland UK Tour Ltd or Bring It On 2017 Ltd. Whilst all of these companies will be under the umbrella of Neil Eckersley/Speculation, what this enables him to do is separate his liabilities, so if one production runs out of money and collapses, the other productions and the parent company/companies aren't liable for those losses/debts and don't have to pay them. Hence why he's able to just get up again and produce another show, as a "new" company. Obviously it's not a solid business model as all of the investment is lost, but there's no further loss to the rest of the company. Just to reiterate, I'm only using Speckulation as an example, the same basic theory applies to businesses right across our sector and beyond. Also I'm not a legal expert so if I've made any slight inaccuracies in what I've said, feel free to correct me I won't be offended
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 7, 2017 12:45:18 GMT
I'm not an expert either (in anything), but I suspect part of the problem is the newish tax rules encourage any Tom, Dick or Harry to be a wannabee theatre producer.
Even Cam Mac and Disney received a tax credit for Mary Poppins!
Unlike TV, there is no quality threshold for theatrical productions.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 7, 2017 14:19:37 GMT
I think it will still go ahead. For the same reason that he always seems able to continue producing shows every time one goes under. Each show that he produces (and for the industry in general) is a whole separate company, a legal entity in its own right. For example something like Wonderland UK Tour Ltd or Bring It On 2017 Ltd. Whilst all of these companies will be under the umbrella of Neil Eckersley/Speculation, what this enables him to do is separate his liabilities, so if one production runs out of money and collapses, the other productions and the parent company/companies aren't liable for those losses/debts and don't have to pay them. Hence why he's able to just get up again and produce another show, as a "new" company. Obviously it's not a solid business model as all of the investment is lost, but there's no further loss to the rest of the company. Just to reiterate, I'm only using Speckulation as an example, the same basic theory applies to businesses right across our sector and beyond. Also I'm not a legal expert so if I've made any slight inaccuracies in what I've said, feel free to correct me I won't be offended I can see why his productions can still go ahead but the main thing I'm.eindering is how they can still go ahead in terms of the cast and crew. Why would anyone work with him or on his shows given what's come out over the last few weeks?
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Post by londonland on Aug 7, 2017 15:48:44 GMT
I think it will still go ahead. For the same reason that he always seems able to continue producing shows every time one goes under. Each show that he produces (and for the industry in general) is a whole separate company, a legal entity in its own right. For example something like Wonderland UK Tour Ltd or Bring It On 2017 Ltd. Whilst all of these companies will be under the umbrella of Neil Eckersley/Speculation, what this enables him to do is separate his liabilities, so if one production runs out of money and collapses, the other productions and the parent company/companies aren't liable for those losses/debts and don't have to pay them. Hence why he's able to just get up again and produce another show, as a "new" company. Obviously it's not a solid business model as all of the investment is lost, but there's no further loss to the rest of the company. Just to reiterate, I'm only using Speckulation as an example, the same basic theory applies to businesses right across our sector and beyond. Also I'm not a legal expert so if I've made any slight inaccuracies in what I've said, feel free to correct me I won't be offended I’m afraid you might be quite right here. As much as I would like to see the show, I would prefer for the tour not to start at all if Bring It On the Musical Ltd, which is the name of an actual company owned by the usual suspect (public info on the Companies House website, no speculation [pun intended]), turned out to be yet another venture likely to go bust mid-tour to the detriment of cast and crew.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 16:39:08 GMT
I think the bigger issue for Bring it On getting on the road maybe the trying to source the individuals and equipment required to mount a touring production with the events and association of Wonderland so fresh. I think the producer may have real issues in trying to find an audio company, given that the reason the wonderland tour fell through is that one company pulled out and another failed to replace them. With a history of reoccurring issues notoriety is increasing and at some point soon people will stop providing him with equipment on credit.
It may be that the tour starts as people demand payment up front (as per Wonderland) but then as payments fail thats when issues may occur - should he find a willing supplier and contractor.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 17:14:44 GMT
I would be sad if this tour didn't happen. Just taken a look at availability for the first night in Birmingham - stalls appx 1/3 full with 8 weeks or so to go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 17:15:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 17:19:50 GMT
I would be sad if this tour didn't happen. Just taken a look at availability for the first night in Birmingham - stalls appx 1/3 full with 8 weeks or so to go.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 7, 2017 17:25:25 GMT
Every time I come into this and the Wonderland thread I crap myself thinking we can't afford a lawyer Please keep it non specific and keep us, and you out of trouble! God, I hate being boring Anyway, this is opening night in manc. Tough sell, it has ZERO recognition factor.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 17:30:01 GMT
Anyway, this is opening night in manc. Tough sell, it has ZERO recognition factor. My first reaction when I heard Hamilton was 'oh, this must be the Bring It On' guy.
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