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Post by l0islane on Jan 25, 2018 22:37:09 GMT
I just changed to a mastercard so i might try to get tickets this year. I think they go on sale next week. Out of interest, if anyones been, what's it like? Are you smuggled in by a side entrance as the great unwashed or do you do the whole red carpet walk even though you are a nobody? I've been for the last 5 years or so, it used to be way better when it was at The Royal Opera House, you got to walk the red carpet and they gave you champagne and you felt like part of it. Last year they moved it to the RAH and although it is now a bit cheaper the experience isn't the same. You don't get to walk the red carpet, you have to go in a side entrance and the £35 tickets are at the extreme side of the Rausing Circle so they are quite restricted view. You still get to dress up and they give you a programme and it's cool just to be there but it's not what it once was. I'm going again this year though, so I obviously feel it's still worth the £35
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Post by emicardiff on Jan 26, 2018 10:39:28 GMT
Garfield will likely win Tony and Olivier in the SAME YEAR. Has this ever happened before? Not to my knowledge- this article here lists people who have won for the same role- mostly a year apart after transferring from London-NY or the other way around. For Angels it depends how the Tony/Olivier committee splits the nominations. For the Tonys Prior and Roy have both been in the supporting and lead actor category (basically it was one way around the first time then switched) and obviously it depends if they decide to put Lane/Garfield against one another or put them in separate categories. Also I think the 'other Andrew' could be him in London. I think the ensemble nature of it will go against any of the Angels cast actually.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 10:58:21 GMT
I think the ensemble nature of it will go against any of the Angels cast actually. Possibly, although having said that both Jennifer Ehle and Billy Crudup won featured role Tonys for 'The Coast of Utopia' which is also very ensemble driven. I think which categories they choose to put the cast in will be interesting. Andrew Garfield is clearly the lead and I don't think that can really be denied so any other category would be frankly ridiculous, it's really where they put Nathan Lane which will be the one to watch. I have a feeling they will also put him in Lead too, pitting him against Garfield although putting him in featured gives him a better chance of winning (and the Tonys do love a bit of Nathan Lane). The featured categories will be a bit of a bloodbath for the Angels cast methinks and someone somewhere is going to miss out. I wonder whether Lee Pace will take James McArdle's spot. Denise Gough is a guaranteed nominee I think, Susan Brown may miss out depending on how strong that category is come nomination time.
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Post by emicardiff on Jan 26, 2018 11:04:11 GMT
I think the ensemble nature of it will go against any of the Angels cast actually. Possibly, although having said that both Jennifer Ehle and Billy Crudup won featured role Tonys for 'The Coast of Utopia' which is also very ensemble driven. I think which categories they choose to put the cast in will be interesting. Andrew Garfield is clearly the lead and I don't think that can really be denied so any other category would be frankly ridiculous, it's really where they put Nathan Lane which will be the one to watch. I have a feeling they will also put him in Lead too, pitting him against Garfield although putting him in featured gives him a better chance of winning (and the Tonys do love a bit of Nathan Lane). The featured categories will be a bit of a bloodbath for the Angels cast methinks and someone somewhere is going to miss out. I wonder whether Lee Pace will take James McArdle's spot. Denise Gough is a guaranteed nominee I think, Susan Brown may miss out depending on how strong that category is come nomination time. Only one way to settle it FIIIIIGGGGGHHHT But seriously, yes. I think Garf and Lane will be against each other for lead (if I'm putting money on it, Garf will win in London, Lane in NY). In supporting, it'll depend on the competition for the boys- in NY I think McArdle will lose out on a nomination (which is a travesty) in London, I think depending on the others in there, Stewart-Jarrett might pip him to it. I don't think Tovey will get nominated for the London run, but Pace almost certainly will. BUT for the Tonys as well they'll be up against The Boys in the Band lot as well, and that's an interesting fight. Gough will certainly get nominated and likely win in either case. But I think Sue Brown will get overlooked, which is a great shame.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jan 27, 2018 17:33:35 GMT
The real shame is that Conleth Hill won't get the love he deserves for his extraordinary performance in Virginia Woolf
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 17:40:09 GMT
I'll be intrigued to see what happens with Imelda. She will definately be nominated for Virginia Woolf, and possibly win, but all the Follies energy seems to be going into Janie rather than her.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 22:24:15 GMT
Yeah I think Staunton will get nominated for both but she will win for her powerhouse performance in Virginia Woolf. Dee may very well take the other for Follies. And Bennett will be nominated for supporting for Follies but I assume she'll face competition from the Hamilton girls. I'm expecting a Hamilton/Follies love fest on the musical side anyway.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jan 28, 2018 0:48:39 GMT
I'll be intrigued to see what happens with Imelda. She will definately be nominated for Virginia Woolf, and possibly win, but all the Follies energy seems to be going into Janie rather than her. Where has that come from? I haven't seen anything other than plaudits for both whereas it's the men in the show who are being less talked about. Would Carly Bawden be eligible as she'd be a worthy third option?
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 28, 2018 1:19:21 GMT
Rule out Josie Walker at your peril, she will get nominated for a supporting role,
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Post by lonlad on Jan 28, 2018 6:02:28 GMT
Boys in the Band doesn't open at the Booth Theatre until May 31, more than a month after Tony eligibility cut-off date for this season, so it and ANGELS won't go to head to head at the Tonys, which was presumably (and wisely) done on purpose. And, yes, the FOLLIES energy, for good or for ill, is all around Janie and not Imelda, for whatever reason: Janie got an Evg Standard Theatre Award nom and whatsonstage.com nom for FOLLIES whereas Imelda didn't get either (though she did get a WOS nod for VIRGINIA WOOLF). But there's a history here -- the last two Broadway revivals of FOLLIES brought noms for their Phyllis-es (Jan Maxwell and before that the wonderful Blythe Danner) but not for their Sallys (Bernadette Peters, who is Broadway royalty, and before that Judith Ivey.) At this point I think the Olivier is Janie's to lose, though I can't imagine Imelda won't at least be nominated. And if Janie does win over Imelda, that will be just like it was on Broadway with the original production, where Alexis Smith beat Dorothy Collins. Shame the men aren't getting more attention - they were both extraordinary, especially Peter Forbes only because he was/is so much lesser-known than PQ.
I, too, hope the Oliviers remember Conleth Hill who gave the performance of that VWOOLF production. I wonder if James Macdonald will be nominated for best director for V WOOLF or maybe even for JOHN, in which his work is exquisite. And how wonderful it would be, too, to nominate Marylouise Burke (from JOHN), whose performance is a thing of wonder -- giddy and nuanced and, in the final act, utterly radiant.
On Broadway, Gough's Tony success will surely be helped by the bravura reviews she got last autumn for PEOPLE, PLACES & THINGS which was done OFF Broadway (so is Tony-ineligible) -- versatility in a single season goes down well with Tony voters!
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Post by callum on Jan 29, 2018 2:08:23 GMT
Would love to see Marylouise Burke get some recognition for JOHN as well - thought she was remarkable. I would say she is just on the borderline of going for either lead or supporting actress. Lead does seem stacked (Imelda, Denise, maybe Stockard), and supporting a bit thinner so she might do well there.
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Post by emicardiff on Jan 29, 2018 8:47:22 GMT
I'd love the musical leading lady to go to Josie Walker (and I didn't even see her- I saw the understudy!!) And I also agree Imelda is more likely to get it for Woolf than Follies. No doubt setting myself up for trouble but I don't think the Hamilton ladies parts (as written, not their fault) are up there with what any of the 3 Follies ladies likely to be nominated, or Josie Walker, do in their roles. But of course it is sinful to have anything less than rapture when it comes to Hamilton so....
By the way dears, we may be London (or provincial) hicks but we all know that Tony awards are for the Broadway shows not off-Broadway. But thanks for explaining that one. Also some of us just are too lazy to google opening nights to check eligibility...
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Post by viserys on Jan 29, 2018 9:07:14 GMT
Having seen "Jamie" this weekend and Josie Walker, I'm all for her winning the musical Olivier over the Follies or Hamilton leads. I would agree that for Hamilton it's mostly how the parts are written, especially bland Eliza. Angelica is the showier part but Rachel John didn't stand out for me at all, unlike Renee Elise Goldsberry on Broadway. As for Follies, I've voiced my dislike for the show's leading females before (the characters, NOT the actresses!), so I'd be luke-warm about either of them winning over Josie Walker, but then I've been frequently disappointed by the Oliviers before.
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Post by emicardiff on Jan 29, 2018 9:18:00 GMT
"Frequently disappointed by the Oliviers" could be an autobiography title haha!
But while I'm being unpopular- frankly Janie Dee sang and acted circles around Queen Imedla IMHO so again I'd be most disappointed (but not surprised) to see her lose out. And as pointed out above, the men of Follies don't get nearly the attention they deserve. And it's a rare thing I'll say men aren't getting the attention they deserve....
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Post by nialld on Feb 10, 2018 16:48:00 GMT
Hope Lesley Manville gets a Best Actress nomination for Long Day's Journey - think she's in with a chance after the momentum from her Oscar nomination!
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Post by callum on Feb 11, 2018 16:17:28 GMT
Hope Lesley Manville gets a Best Actress nomination for Long Day's Journey - think she's in with a chance after the momentum from her Oscar nomination! I agree - she was fabulous. But it might come down to the fact that she's only in a four-star production (as good as it is), while WAOVW and Angels were five-star shows (I thought).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 9:59:22 GMT
Nominations announced Tue 6th March
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Post by theatrescribe on Feb 25, 2018 0:08:44 GMT
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Post by Baemax on Feb 25, 2018 9:25:15 GMT
The only affiliate theatre where I've seen all the eligible productions is the Unicorn. I fear that says more about me than anything else. I also fear that so many of the really brilliant and beautiful new plays in the eligibility list are going to end up completely overshadowed by the bigger plays that have occupied so much more of the headlines.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 9:50:05 GMT
Interesting that the globe is eligible this year, I don't think it has been previously. And also I feel like some of the shows are in the wrong catergories.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Feb 25, 2018 9:57:07 GMT
I'm glad they're not indulging Girl from the North Country with that play with music nonsense.
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Post by Baemax on Feb 25, 2018 9:58:08 GMT
Roger Allam won best actor for his Globe-based Falstaff in 2011, so it's been eligible for years, it just doesn't often get a look in for one reason or another.
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Post by theatremadness on Feb 25, 2018 11:13:24 GMT
Interesting that Five Guys Named Moe comes under 'Entertainment & Family' and not 'Musical Revival. I mean, it has a book, music & lyrics (albeit with a paper-thin plot), it's a musical, no?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 11:22:48 GMT
It's interesting that Labour of Love is judged to be a comedy and in a separate category to most plays, instead being compared with Mischief Movie Night which changes every night.
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Post by crowblack on Feb 25, 2018 11:35:19 GMT
overshadowed by the bigger plays that have occupied so much more of the headlines. Not a new play, but my favourite female performance in that list was Erin Doherty's tour de force in My Name is Rachel Corrie in one of the Young Vic's studios. It was only a short run, too, but Billington raved about it and her - he named her as his newcomer of the year in his round-up.
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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 25, 2018 13:52:06 GMT
I'm rather surprised to see Mischief Movie Night in the New Comedy category. I would have rather expected it to be in the Entertainment category, like Showstopper was when it became the first improv show to win an Olivier.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 17:10:22 GMT
So glad to see La Strada is on the list, as I didn't think The Other Palace (or St James before) was an eligible venue. And glad Tommy at Stratford East is on there for Affiliate Theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 17:19:38 GMT
Interesting that Five Guys Named Moe comes under 'Entertainment & Family' and not 'Musical Revival. I mean, it has a book, music & lyrics (albeit with a paper-thin plot), it's a musical, no? I also found it odd that Pinocchio is in play but should be in family or entertainment and The Miser is in new play but is a revival. Also so am personally a bit annoyed Mary Stuart won't be eligible as Lia and Juliet should have both been nominated for there performances but it was technically up for last years awards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 23:09:41 GMT
Also just looked again and see that the Bridge Theatre is not elegible which seems a bit odd as other threats like the Almeida and Hampstead are and as well I feel Julius Caesar is very deserving of a few noms especially revival, maybe I'm just being a bit picky this year.
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Post by Baemax on Feb 25, 2018 23:32:41 GMT
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