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Post by londonpostie on Apr 29, 2020 19:46:50 GMT
Steady flow into Heathrow this morning and evening. Can only get busier now and it's depressing as hell. We have to do something about unrestricted tourism and no-essential beanos masquerading as 'business trips'. IMO!
Also the high streets are picking up noticeably. Most small businesses seem open, majority of the chains probably not. It may not be official but the absence of police says there has been a change.
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Post by Latecomer on Apr 29, 2020 20:19:12 GMT
Just a small point but vital...wearing a mask stops the person wearing the mask from spreading the virus if they cough (and have the virus of course).....it does not protect you if another person coughs near you and they are not wearing a mask.....so don’t go round thinking wearing a mask makes you safe. In fact it could make you less safe if it makes you feel safer and you go closer to people because you are wearing it....
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Post by lynette on Apr 29, 2020 22:08:12 GMT
Just a small point but vital...wearing a mask stops the person wearing the mask from spreading the virus if they cough (and have the virus of course).....it does not protect you if another person coughs near you and they are not wearing a mask.....so don’t go round thinking wearing a mask makes you safe. In fact it could make you less safe if it makes you feel safer and you go closer to people because you are wearing it.... Thank you. Been trying to tell people this for a while now. A mask can be a false friend.
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Post by Mark on Apr 30, 2020 9:31:18 GMT
As for the people whose jobs are at risk, I imagine that most of them will get their jobs back fairly quickly. After a period of reduced income no company is going to want to go through the hassle of recruiting and training new staff when they already have a list of people they know can do the work. From a cabin crew perspective, recency is important (one flight every 90 days). After 180 days, more training needed. Annual exams to keep you compliant. A full training course currently takes around 5 weeks, but even as a bare minimum would need to be 3 weeks and thats without any customer service elements. When crew leave and come back, they have to do the full retraining. Pilots have similar requirements to keep recent, otherwise lots more training and checks required. For the most part, they can only fly one aircraft type (for example, 747 or 777, not both), whereas cabin crew can fly on up to three aircraft. A stark comment from IATA. For every job lost at an airline, another 24 go somewhere in the value chain. www.uniqueforwarding.com/remarks-of-alexandre-de-juniac-at-the-iata-media-briefing-on-covid-19-14-april-2020/
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Post by olliebean on Apr 30, 2020 10:30:02 GMT
Just a small point but vital...wearing a mask stops the person wearing the mask from spreading the virus if they cough (and have the virus of course).....it does not protect you if another person coughs near you and they are not wearing a mask.....so don’t go round thinking wearing a mask makes you safe. In fact it could make you less safe if it makes you feel safer and you go closer to people because you are wearing it.... And we're now hearing that the tighter fitting type of masks that do protect the wearer, if they're the sort with a valve, don't protect anyone else from the wearer's germs - the valve lets nothing in but everything out.
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Post by poster J on Apr 30, 2020 10:59:42 GMT
Feeling incredibly overwhelmed with loneliness today. Living alone is bloody miserable in these times and I am utterly desperate for some proper human contact (i.e. a hug) and to see any family or friends. I feel like I want to punch the next person who tells me I'm lucky to have video calls because yes, they are something, but they are just not the same.
Any talk of extending lockdown or things not starting to slowly go back to normal soon is becoming unbearable.
I'm lucky I guess in that I have work as a distraction during the day but even that is becoming almost impossible to concentrate on now. I have no desire to do anything - I've just had a call from a neighbour asking if I can get her groceries again and I feel guilty but I can't bear the thought of going out to do anything at the minute.
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Post by ruby on Apr 30, 2020 11:48:51 GMT
Feeling incredibly overwhelmed with loneliness today. Living alone is bloody miserable in these times and I am utterly desperate for some proper human contact (i.e. a hug) and to see any family or friends. I feel like I want to punch the next person who tells me I'm lucky to have video calls because yes, they are something, but they are just not the same. Any talk of extending lockdown or things not starting to slowly go back to normal soon is becoming unbearable. I'm lucky I guess in that I have work as a distraction during the day but even that is becoming almost impossible to concentrate on now. I have no desire to do anything - I've just had a call from a neighbour asking if I can get her groceries again and I feel guilty but I can't bear the thought of going out to do anything at the minute. Not the same as a real hug, but please have some virtual ones. I can empathise with the lack of concentration and feeling disinclined to do anything as I'm struggling with those things too.
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Post by Latecomer on Apr 30, 2020 12:09:52 GMT
Feeling incredibly overwhelmed with loneliness today. Living alone is bloody miserable in these times and I am utterly desperate for some proper human contact (i.e. a hug) and to see any family or friends. I feel like I want to punch the next person who tells me I'm lucky to have video calls because yes, they are something, but they are just not the same. Any talk of extending lockdown or things not starting to slowly go back to normal soon is becoming unbearable. I'm lucky I guess in that I have work as a distraction during the day but even that is becoming almost impossible to concentrate on now. I have no desire to do anything - I've just had a call from a neighbour asking if I can get her groceries again and I feel guilty but I can't bear the thought of going out to do anything at the minute. So sorry for you today. It’s not helpful being told you are “lucky” is it...because it is all about how you feel. I think we will all have bad days along the way. Perhaps try and just inhabit a different way of living for the day? Don’t listen to the news for the day (as all they do is endlessly speculate anyway)....but I realise sometimes nothing really helps. I find the video chats exhausting and not very satisfying....I think it’s all that “filling the silence?” I hope you feel better soon. This too will pass. *virtual hug*
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Post by poster J on Apr 30, 2020 12:11:23 GMT
Thank you both, and sorry for the rant! X
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Post by Forrest on Apr 30, 2020 12:39:07 GMT
poster J , adding another virtual hug to the pile. I can understand how you feel: I've been coping with this whole thing fairly well, I believe, on most days I'm positive and cheerful, but a day or two will come along occasionally when it will all just seem so hard, I'll feel useless (all that pressure to do great work, professionally, and at the same time learn a new language, find a way to do good and change the world, become a better and better looking version of myself, all while tending to my - non-existing - sourdough starter, does occasionally get to me) and this will all feel grey and overlong, and yes, lonesome. I know it feels counter-intuitive, but going for a walk (or a run) may help; actually, anything that usually helps you clear your mind. Even if that's dancing around your living room, go for it! And don't feel bad for feeling bad. It's perfectly normal, given the circumstances.
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Post by ruby on Apr 30, 2020 13:32:03 GMT
Thank you both, and sorry for the rant! X No need to apologise, everyone needs somewhere to share their feelings and let off a little steam. I second @forrest's suggestion of dancing round the living room. I find either dancing to some cheesy pop music or belting out an ALW classic at the top of my (not exactly in tune) voice is very therapeutic!
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Post by lynette on Apr 30, 2020 13:49:15 GMT
Poster j no need to apologise. This is unprecedented and we are in the ‘unknown’, no idea of the outcome. Just hope the ‘experts’ and those lovely nerds, the research scientists can sort this one out. I’m certainly up and down and keeping ‘up’ is tiring. I have found some decent lectures on tnet from Gresham college, huge archive of interesting stuff. And I am reading, discovering new detective/spy authors. But I’m thinking my youngest grandson who is just beginning to talk in little sentences will be entering his silent teenage phase before we have a proper conversation. Boring, I know, to hear about other people’s families but he has just started to ‘sing’ along to Sinatra’s ‘My Way’ with a massive loud shout out of ‘my waaaaay!’ So that was cheering this morning as it was sent over via WhatsApp. I thought I should report that this means musical entertainment is safe for the future.
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Post by The Matthew on Apr 30, 2020 14:14:51 GMT
I saw an article on the BBC news website about someone who has taken the opportunity of being stuck at home to finish building a railway in his garden. I was expecting a model railway. It is not a model railway. He's built a very short length of full-size standard gauge railway. My ambition with my garden is to uncover my path.
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Post by peggs on Apr 30, 2020 15:07:47 GMT
Current situation off loading positively encouraged here, everyone needs a space to be real and not feel like they have to be upbeat.
Have danced a few times on very bad days, stick on lively track, if nothing else am so out of breath about 20 seconds in can't think of anything else. Lack of fitness not illness.
Have found myself intently staring at new leaves now, not just wildlife. Did wave and say hello to cows yesterday, gotta take interaction where you can.
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Post by theatreian on Apr 30, 2020 15:11:58 GMT
Yes the current situation is difficult for a lot of people. No one should ever feel guilty about feeling fed up, frustrated ,worried or depressed. This is an unprecedented time and the only thing we can think is that it will come to an end . It isn't always helpful all the speculation and too much news sometimes does not help. I wonder what I did before Chris Chitty and Patrick Valance did their 5 o clock briefings! Still even if is one small thing each day that is funny, positive etc try and focus on that. Seeing Captain(Colonel) Tom this morning watching his flypast was lovely. We all just need to pull together and get through this the best way that we can and that suits our different needs and personalities.
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Post by sfsusan on Apr 30, 2020 18:04:47 GMT
Don’t listen to the news for the day I'd take that further and say "Don't listen to the news", full stop. I find I get enough of what I really need to know from headlines, teasers and news articles online. I have a relative in the US who is watching the news obsessively and is absolutely frantic with worry most of the time. She's also grossly overestimating (I hope) the scope and impact of the virus (which is bad enough as is)... she thinks everyone is going to get it and 50% of the people who get it will die. I've given up trying to reassure her with current factual information. Current situation off loading positively encouraged here, everyone needs a space to be real and not feel like they have to be upbeat. Exactly! On my down days, I accept that it's a down day and think, "oh well, I'll feel better tomorrow". And if not tomorrow, the day after... I find that chocolate and humor (watching QI reruns, primarily) make me feel better.
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Post by TallPaul on May 1, 2020 10:49:29 GMT
I've had a right result this morning.
Doing some tidying, I found a tube of Jelly Tots and a big bag of Skittles hidden amongst some other stuff. 🙂
Lockdown ain't all bad!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 12:49:56 GMT
Two lovely unexpected conversations today:
1 - bumped, not literally, into a neighbour and we had a really satisfying rant about how dismal it all is and how we are missing going to the theatre and other cultural things
2 - went out for an early morning supermarket raid and the coffee shop on the street has reopened for takeaway so I treated myself to a latte and croissant (bliss); really nice chat with the guy working there who said that he, too, was really missing theatre
I can't quite explain why, but the fact that those two conversations turned so quickly to how much we want to get back to the theatre and that online streams just make us miss it more really boosted me. It's so nice to know that I'm not alone and also that there is still an audience out there apart from me just waiting for them to reopen.
And it was just so nice to have some human contact again...
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Post by tysilio2 on May 1, 2020 13:52:09 GMT
I've had a right result this morning. Doing some tidying, I found a tube of Jelly Tots and a big bag of Skittles hidden amongst some other stuff. 🙂 Lockdown ain't all bad! If it's anything like our house, they'll be dated about 1992
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 14:01:39 GMT
I've had a right result this morning. Doing some tidying, I found a tube of Jelly Tots and a big bag of Skittles hidden amongst some other stuff. 🙂 Lockdown ain't all bad! Now this is the type of Act One ending that will get people to come back from interval to see what happens next.
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Post by The Matthew on May 1, 2020 14:16:23 GMT
I have received a delivery of chocolate. It has visibly diminished while I have been writing this post.
(Thank you, Hotel Chocolat / Chocolate Tasting Club)
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Post by theatreian on May 1, 2020 15:27:34 GMT
I have received a delivery of chocolate. Making me very jealous! Hotel Chocolat stuff is lovely. Reminds me I went for a job there once but didn't get it. Probably just as well or I would be the size of a house by now!
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Post by Dawnstar on May 1, 2020 17:21:03 GMT
I spent over an hour and a half bleaching groceries.
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Post by david on May 1, 2020 18:58:26 GMT
After much ribbing from work colleagues today about the state of my hair, I’ve finally taken the plunge and decided to invest in some hair clippers for a DIY hair cut this weekend.
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Post by The Matthew on May 2, 2020 8:42:44 GMT
Main weekly shopping completed, followed by the ritual Washing Of The Food.
(I always wash food anyway, ever since it was brought to my attention that warehouses are full of mice and when a mouse has a full bladder it doesn't pop out to the Little Rodents' Room. But now I'm considerably more careful about it and wash the packaging as well.)
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Post by sf on May 2, 2020 8:51:25 GMT
The postman arrived - of course - when I was in the bathroom. I’m sure I looked delightful when I answered the door wearing a towel, with hair resembling a cross between Phyllis Diller and mid-80s-Michael-Heseltine-touching-a-plasma-globe.
Oh dear.
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Post by alece10 on May 2, 2020 10:00:42 GMT
I have received a delivery of chocolate. It has visibly diminished while I have been writing this post. (Thank you, Hotel Chocolat / Chocolate Tasting Club) I'm waiting for my end of season mystery box from Hotel Chocolat to arrive. It will be a lovely surprise as I dont know what will be in it.
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Post by talkingheads on May 2, 2020 13:22:39 GMT
I am 25 years old. Pretty mature generally. It's been an hour and I'm still laughing at the fact the Prime Minister's son is genuinely called Willy Johnson
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Post by TallPaul on May 2, 2020 14:03:27 GMT
Rather than it being a chore, I've decided I quite like tidying.
I thought yesterday was a red-letter day, but today is turning out to be even better. So far I've found a pure new wool jumper from Marks & Spencer, reduced from £29.50 to £8.99, and 36 dishwasher tablets.
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Post by glossie on May 3, 2020 19:43:36 GMT
Thanks to Morrisons in-store bakeries selling off their excess flour, today I made 15 bread rolls and a large loaf!
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