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Post by d'James on Feb 5, 2017 22:36:35 GMT
It's funny watching the ones with a long Theatre background. They really seem to look down on the process.
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Post by alece10 on Feb 6, 2017 8:30:06 GMT
I'm sure I saw a musical a few years at the Savoy called Never Forget which was about a boy band and the music of Take That. Isn't this new one the same thing?
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Post by infofreako on Feb 6, 2017 8:38:17 GMT
I'm sure I saw a musical a few years at the Savoy called Never Forget which was about a boy band and the music of Take That. Isn't this new one the same thing? Apparently not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 8:55:45 GMT
I'm sure I saw a musical a few years at the Savoy called Never Forget which was about a boy band and the music of Take That. Isn't this new one the same thing? And by god we are going to KEEP having it until we appriciate it! I say let Gary cheat as much tax as his greedy bland existence can as long as it keeps him out of our hair. Remember, he'd never even stepped into a theatre before he got caught
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Post by freckles on Feb 6, 2017 9:36:35 GMT
I'm sure I saw a musical a few years at the Savoy called Never Forget which was about a boy band and the music of Take That. Isn't this new one the same thing? Gary didn't write that one...
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Post by alece10 on Feb 6, 2017 10:21:31 GMT
I'm sure I saw a musical a few years at the Savoy called Never Forget which was about a boy band and the music of Take That. Isn't this new one the same thing? Gary didn't write that one... Appreciate that but the subject matter seems identical. I did like the rain curtain that spelt out words though that's the only bit I remember from the show.
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Post by Xanderl on Feb 6, 2017 12:55:02 GMT
More on "Never Forget" here - news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7416112.stmIt was put together without Take That's involvement/ permission - EMI licensed the rights to the songs for the musical, during the period before Take That reformed. Nearly 10 years ago!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 6, 2017 13:06:28 GMT
What is very clear is that GB cannot sustain a career without being propped up by the TT brand. While they were split up the man couldn't get arrested. Then they reformed (albeit without Gobbie Williams) and started putting on those wildly successful stadium tours and all of a sudden he was huge again.
Despite a furher drop out and the band now being a "three-piece" as Gary describes it (you can take the man out of the working men's club etc..) they keep flogging it because without TT he is absolutely nothing, and the other two are even less. Even big head Mark Owen has finally conceded and given up trying to maintain a career on his own. At least the other two had the decency to leave.
I have nothing against Gary, he's written some great pop songs but as a solo performer he is a complete dud. I have no objection to someone with a pop background getting into MT (go Cyndi!) but not as some desperate last ditch attempt to gain personal recognition and boost their ego. I think that's what it's all about for him.
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Post by dizzieblonde on Feb 6, 2017 13:37:48 GMT
Yes, most boy bands (e.g. One Direction) were just individual boys put together and then they worried about them getting on and working as a team (or not). This seems bizarre in that the "bands" have already been selected in a "random" way - not! Yes, the show will lose some great lads in the losing bands unless they introduce standbys or covers. As I said up the thread - the chances of seeing all 5 of the original band selected during an 8 show week will be slim with illness and holidays etc. So they will have to pick covers I would have thought from the other guys, so at least the coach parties see "someone off the telly". However, this of course makes a mockery of the " you have to work as a group/team" etc. In practise they will be 5 actors performing roles in a show - they will not be touring the world as a "band". It is a totally different thing. Does anyone know exactly how the eliminations will go from here on in? The BBC website offers no information, so leaves little clue as to how the contestants are eliminated. BTW, the band names have been decided - some of them are predictably awful - Neon Panda, really?!!!! link
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Post by d'James on Feb 6, 2017 15:10:32 GMT
Yes, most boy bands (e.g. One Direction) were just individual boys put together and then they worried about them getting on and working as a team (or not). This seems bizarre in that the "bands" have already been selected in a "random" way - not! Yes, the show will lose some great lads in the losing bands unless they introduce standbys or covers. As I said up the thread - the chances of seeing all 5 of the original band selected during an 8 show week will be slim with illness and holidays etc. So they will have to pick covers I would have thought from the other guys, so at least the coach parties see "someone off the telly". However, this of course makes a mockery of the " you have to work as a group/team" etc. In practise they will be 5 actors performing roles in a show - they will not be touring the world as a "band". It is a totally different thing. Does anyone know exactly how the eliminations will go from here on in? The BBC website offers no information, so leaves little clue as to how the contestants are eliminated. They probably haven't decided (made it up) yet.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 6, 2017 17:42:40 GMT
Yes, most boy bands (e.g. One Direction) were just individual boys put together Yes, unforgivable discrimination against the conjoined community.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 6, 2017 17:43:53 GMT
I'm sure I saw a musical a few years at the Savoy called Never Forget which was about a boy band and the music of Take That. Isn't this new one the same thing? I Forget
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Post by alece10 on Feb 6, 2017 18:00:25 GMT
I'm sure I saw a musical a few years at the Savoy called Never Forget which was about a boy band and the music of Take That. Isn't this new one the same thing? I Forget Well Done. Been waiting all day for someone to come up with that comment. 😃
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 6, 2017 19:02:42 GMT
I'm sure I saw a musical a few years at the Savoy called Never Forget which was about a boy band and the music of Take That. Isn't this new one the same thing? I Forget I always knew that one of these days an HG joke would make me smile. Yep.... one of these days.
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Post by shady23 on Feb 8, 2017 21:43:36 GMT
Tim Driesden and Dean Chisnall were in the original cast and I'm sure Nikki Davis Jones was one of the supporting cast.
"Tinhead from Brookside" was on the tour.
The original cast show was released on DVD. I got a copy from Pound land! 😂
Just read this online re the history of it. Very interesting...
In April 2006, EMI licensed the Take Thatsongs to be used in Never Forget. At the time,Take That had not performed together since the 1990s. Soon thereafter, however, the band re-formed. In 2007, Take That posted the following statement on their website: "The band would like to state categorically that this production is being undertaken with neither their involvement nor their endorsement. They would wish their fans and the general public to know that this production is absolutely and 100 per cent nothing to do with Take That."[10]
After the musical's opening in London, Gary Barlow told the BBC, "At first I thought it sounded horrible... [but] the reports I've seen have been really good so there must be something good in it. I'm just worried that they're better than us."[9]
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Post by steve10086 on Feb 8, 2017 22:09:49 GMT
Let me start by saying I am not a regular One Show viewer, but saw Danni Minogue on it tonight and she explained the way the voting would work. Let's see if I understood it...
The bands with the most votes each week automatically go through. Of the two bands with the lowest votes the judges will chose their favourite 5 individuals and form a new band from them, with the other 5 going home.
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Post by poster J on Feb 8, 2017 22:11:32 GMT
Let me start by saying I am not a regular One Show viewer, but saw Danni Minogue on it tonight and she explained the way the voting would work. Let's see if I understood it... The bands with the most votes each week automatically go through. Of the two bands with the lowest votes the judges will chose their favourite 5 individuals and form a new band from them, with the other 5 going home. As someone who hasn't yet got around to watching the show (and increasingly wondering whether I should bother at all...) that sounds utterly ridiculous and just a bit bizarre...
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Post by d'James on Feb 8, 2017 23:15:23 GMT
So the best bands will continue to get better and gel further while the worst two's members will have to start working together from scratch for the following week? Very bizarre.
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Post by wickedgrin on Feb 8, 2017 23:39:32 GMT
Sounds a shambles!
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Post by Kim_Bahorel on Feb 9, 2017 4:06:38 GMT
Thats a strange way of doing things 😕.
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Post by infofreako on Feb 9, 2017 7:01:51 GMT
That sounds such a confusing way of going about things
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Post by freckles on Feb 9, 2017 9:21:12 GMT
Let me start by saying I am not a regular One Show viewer, but saw Danni Minogue on it tonight and she explained the way the voting would work. Let's see if I understood it... The bands with the most votes each week automatically go through. Of the two bands with the lowest votes the judges will chose their favourite 5 individuals and form a new band from them, with the other 5 going home. This would at least allow for some movement between bands, which is a good thing. But a band with any weak members almost needs to get in the bottom two, in order that they can be re-shuffled.
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Post by dizzieblonde on Feb 9, 2017 11:39:04 GMT
Let me start by saying I am not a regular One Show viewer, but saw Danni Minogue on it tonight and she explained the way the voting would work. Let's see if I understood it... The bands with the most votes each week automatically go through. Of the two bands with the lowest votes the judges will chose their favourite 5 individuals and form a new band from them, with the other 5 going home. As I suspected, there's going to be some rather weak contestants carried through, owing to the presence of stronger/more popular ones in certain groups. It also puts the reformed groups at huge disadvantages to the other ones, having little time to develop as a group of 5 singers, and work out what their strengths are as a team. The saved groups, even if they are being carried by just one or two popular contestants, get the automatic advantage, even when there are much weaker performers there. I predict lots of complaints of unfairness, owing to this method.
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Post by steve10086 on Feb 9, 2017 11:46:06 GMT
I'm not defending the process (as I also think it is bizarre!), but Danni did say that forming a new group from the "losers" each week is similar to life in a musical, where an understudy can take a role at any point, and the "band" will have to work as a group with whoever is on stage that night. Which makes some sense, even though I don't think it justifies this process.
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Post by dizzieblonde on Feb 9, 2017 12:15:45 GMT
I'm not defending the process (as I also think it is bizarre!), but Danni did say that forming a new group from the "losers" each week is similar to life in a musical, where an understudy can take a role at any point, and the "band" will have to work as a group with whoever is on stage that night. Which makes some sense, even though I don't think it justifies this process. I call BS on this - why not change all the groups every week, if this is something they're wanting to challenge the contestants with? There will be at least one group who get to the final without ever having dealt with this, because of this elimination method.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 9, 2017 12:27:19 GMT
Let me start by saying I am not a regular One Show viewer, but saw Danni Minogue on it tonight and she explained the way the voting would work. Let's see if I understood it... The bands with the most votes each week automatically go through. Of the two bands with the lowest votes the judges will chose their favourite 5 individuals and form a new band from them, with the other 5 going home. As I suspected, there's going to be some rather weak contestants carried through, owing to the presence of stronger/more popular ones in certain groups. To be fair, that's how boybands work in real life.
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Post by steve10086 on Feb 9, 2017 12:52:03 GMT
As I suspected, there's going to be some rather weak contestants carried through, owing to the presence of stronger/more popular ones in certain groups. To be fair, that's how boybands work in real life. lol Yes, Take That being a prime example. Who would vote for Howard or Jason if they'd been on this show?!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Feb 9, 2017 18:55:05 GMT
To be fair, that's how boybands work in real life. lol Yes, Take That being a prime example. Who would vote for Howard or Jason if they'd been on this show?! Least they paid their taxes... oh wait a minute hang on
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Post by shady23 on Feb 10, 2017 21:42:31 GMT
I thought the opening number was hideous. Ok it was big, you should be able to make something look spectacular with 40 plus people on stage, but WTF was Minogue doing in it with one of Latoya Jacksons hats on? Striding around barking out statements in that whiny, nasally voice. Dreadful. Also, the tops coming off was cheap on every level. I've just caught up on last week's show. The opening number was a remake of the "making of a boyband" section of Take That's comeback tour. When dancing and singing and a bunch of "boys" were thrown together to form a boy band by a mad scientist (now reworked to be Dannii's bizarre captain character). Source: I am a bit, OK a lot, of a Take That fan girl.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 10, 2017 22:02:23 GMT
Um..... ok Nice to know there was some some sort of rationale behind it. I suppose.
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