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Post by Jan on Apr 24, 2017 12:17:18 GMT
Hytner's book was reckoned not so good in the weekend rags. No real meat! It must have been timed to go with the new theatre razamatazz. No doubt to be sold in the foyer. I read in Sunday T that Mr Dorfman has coughed up for the Bridge- what a saintly man! Will there be a Dorfman bar do you think? Dorfman, in insisting he would only donate to the NT if they named the theatre after him, is prey to the sin of pride and therefore no saint.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 13:34:19 GMT
Hytner's book was reckoned not so good in the weekend rags. No real meat! It must have been timed to go with the new theatre razamatazz. No doubt to be sold in the foyer. I read in Sunday T that Mr Dorfman has coughed up for the Bridge- what a saintly man! Will there be a Dorfman bar do you think? Dorfman, in insisting he would only donate to the NT if they named the theatre after him, is prey to the sin of pride and therefore no saint. Every report I've read says that he was asked, had to be persuaded and talked extensively with his family first before agreeing. But of course you may have inside info... For this, I assume he is an investor expecting to get his money back rather than a philanthropic donor. I saw something on the book in the Times on Sunday and it made it sound pretty interesting - not much gossip but a candid insider's view of life at the NT. But I really liked both the Hall and Eyre diaries so this is preaching to the converted for me!
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Post by Xanderl on Apr 24, 2017 13:36:22 GMT
More on this story as it develops.
Q: Why do you say no new theatre has been built for 80 years when a new theatre opened in 1974? A: No new theatre has been built Q: OK but what about the new theatre that was built A: ...
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Post by Honoured Guest on Apr 24, 2017 13:49:12 GMT
The New London Theatre was used as a television studio for several years so perhaps it should be considered as a multi-purpose venue rather than as a theatre?
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Post by Jon on Apr 24, 2017 14:14:22 GMT
Perhaps Hytner means it's the first new theatre that isn't a replacement of another theatre
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 24, 2017 16:00:28 GMT
Hmmm i am as you will have noticed a Miller fan but AC and View were thirty years ago and ATF wasnt in Cottesloe. As we have commented before tho the likes of us arent who Rufus is after!! Ah, your memory playing tricks again Marty, ATF certainly WAS in the Cottesloe which is where I saw it - I can't recall if it transferred to a larger theatre later. Another example. In the Cottesloe they staged "The Enchantment" by Victoria Benedictsson (1888). She was one of the only female playwrights of the era and was a notable protofeminist. The play did reasonable business, had Nancy Carroll in it, and was both good and historically interesting. The current NT is policy is that they wouldn't stage this play. I will check the prog tonight😉
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 24, 2017 18:51:13 GMT
Ah, your memory playing tricks again Marty, ATF certainly WAS in the Cottesloe which is where I saw it - I can't recall if it transferred to a larger theatre later. Another example. In the Cottesloe they staged "The Enchantment" by Victoria Benedictsson (1888). She was one of the only female playwrights of the era and was a notable protofeminist. The play did reasonable business, had Nancy Carroll in it, and was both good and historically interesting. The current NT is policy is that they wouldn't stage this play. I will check the prog tonight😉 Turns out we were both right Jan love. ATF opened in Cottesloe then transferred to the Lyttleton where i saw it.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 24, 2017 20:16:15 GMT
More on this story as it develops. Q: Why do you say no new theatre has been built for 80 years when a new theatre opened in 1974? A: No new theatre has been built Q: OK but what about the new theatre that was built A: ... I will check the prog tonight😉 Turns out we were both right Jan love. ATF opened in Cottesloe then transferred to the Lyttleton where i saw it. Thought the National Theatre complex is know where near 80 years old, where dear Nick used to be the artistic director.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Apr 24, 2017 21:18:23 GMT
Thought the National Theatre complex is know where near 80 years old, where dear Nick used to be the artistic director. NT South Bank isn't a commercial theatre!
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Post by Jan on Apr 25, 2017 6:42:57 GMT
Thought the National Theatre complex is know where near 80 years old, where dear Nick used to be the artistic director. NT South Bank isn't a commercial theatre! When's that Disney production of Pinnochio opening ?
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Post by Jan on Apr 25, 2017 6:43:45 GMT
I will check the prog tonight😉 Turns out we were both right Jan love. ATF opened in Cottesloe then transferred to the Lyttleton where i saw it. No. I was right and you ("ATF wasn't in the Cottesloe") were wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 7:35:30 GMT
Turns out we were both right Jan love. ATF opened in Cottesloe then transferred to the Lyttleton where i saw it. No. I was right and you ("ATF wasn't in the Cottesloe") were wrong. I don't want to sound all happy clappy but can we tone down the belligerent unpleasantness that has been breaking out here lately. There's just no reason to communicate like this.
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Post by Jan on Apr 25, 2017 10:49:55 GMT
No. I was right and you ("ATF wasn't in the Cottesloe") were wrong. I don't want to sound all happy clappy but can we tone down the belligerent unpleasantness that has been breaking out here lately. There's just no reason to communicate like this. Oh don't worry about Marty, he realises that when elderly English gentlemen start trading insults it is a sign of deep deep affection, love even. He started it anyway.
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 25, 2017 11:51:18 GMT
Turns out we were both right Jan love. ATF opened in Cottesloe then transferred to the Lyttleton where i saw it. No. I was right and you ("ATF wasn't in the Cottesloe") were wrong. Oooh!
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 25, 2017 11:52:29 GMT
I don't want to sound all happy clappy but can we tone down the belligerent unpleasantness that has been breaking out here lately. There's just no reason to communicate like this. Oh don't worry about Marty, he realises that when elderly English gentlemen start trading insults it is a sign of deep deep affection, love even. He started it anyway. Who you calling elderly?
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Post by Honoured Guest on Apr 25, 2017 14:08:20 GMT
And it's a public duty to tell people when they are factually wrong, even when they're elderly and may be too frail to cope with the traumatic realisation.
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Post by lynette on Apr 25, 2017 17:47:58 GMT
I'll be in later to sort out the commodes and switch on the box for them. Get a grip people.
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 25, 2017 17:50:52 GMT
I'll be in later to sort out the commodes and switch on the box for them. Get a grip people. Seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 19:51:42 GMT
Dignitas is always an option, my friends.
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Post by Baemax on Apr 25, 2017 20:07:51 GMT
Dignitas is always an option, my friends. You are Ben Power and I claim my £5.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 20:40:29 GMT
Dignitas is always an option, my friends. You are Ben Power and I claim my £5. I'll give you a fiver for thinking I could possibly be that young!
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Post by Jan on Apr 26, 2017 5:43:11 GMT
I'll be in later to sort out the commodes and switch on the box for them. Get a grip people. Seriously? Hey Marty, just while we're in here and because there isn't a suitable thread, have you read the book "The Rise and Fall of the Royal Shakespeare Company" by Simon Trowbridge ? Any good ?
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 26, 2017 5:57:34 GMT
Hey Marty, just while we're in here and because there isn't a suitable thread, have you read the book "The Rise and Fall of the Royal Shakespeare Company" by Simon Trowbridge ? Any good ? I have, its ok. Bit odd coz he seems on the surface a fan but is awfully critical of them. Now im not saying they are perfect but i thought the tone of the book bit odd. Wanna borrow it?☺
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Post by altamont on Apr 26, 2017 7:14:44 GMT
Hey Marty, just while we're in here and because there isn't a suitable thread, have you read the book "The Rise and Fall of the Royal Shakespeare Company" by Simon Trowbridge ? Any good ? So why not start a new thread? Why start a conversation with another member about the RSC on a thread about the Bridge Theatre?
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Post by Steve on Apr 26, 2017 7:16:05 GMT
I have never heard of a "strapitan seat." Is it cheap because it's uncomfortable, in which case I'll buy it, or because it's for some particular constituency (eg the less abled or young people), in which case I won't? Anyone know?
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Post by Jan on Apr 26, 2017 7:27:00 GMT
Hey Marty, just while we're in here and because there isn't a suitable thread, have you read the book "The Rise and Fall of the Royal Shakespeare Company" by Simon Trowbridge ? Any good ? So why not start a new thread? Why start a conversation with another member about the RSC on a thread about the Bridge Theatre? Same reason as you have posted something which is not about The Bridge in the thread too I suppose. Here's an interesting link about The Bridge and various other new theatres that are planned and opening - one wonders how many of these will succeed. www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/simon-jenkins-never-underestimate-the-power-of-live-on-the-london-stage-a3523341.html
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Post by Honoured Guest on Apr 26, 2017 9:21:14 GMT
I have never heard of a "strapitan seat." Is it cheap because it's uncomfortable, in which case I'll buy it, or because it's for some particular constituency (eg the less abled or young people), in which case I won't? Anyone know? I've also never heard of them but I guess, from their position on the end of the rows, part-projecting into the aisles, that they are the same as the seats in the Dorfman that look like glorified armrests for the adjacent normal seat until the ticket-holder turns up and folds this "arm rest" down through 90%, to open up a seat and back. I've sat beside one in the Dorfman and the person in it seemed perfectly comfortable and content. In retrospect, he was probably silently chortling over how much less he'd paid than I had.
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Post by Xanderl on Apr 26, 2017 9:54:48 GMT
Yes, interesting article, and I think the key paragraph is this, which explains why the Bridge has been built and why it doesn't actually matter if it fails - the developers will have made such a huge profit on the flats that paying for a (potential) white elephant theatre is no big deal. .. and the next step is for the owners of these expensive new flats to complain about the noise or other disturbance caused by visitors to the "cultural amenity". See for instance People who bought flats next door to art gallery sue art gallery for being next door to their flats
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Post by purple12 on Apr 26, 2017 10:26:02 GMT
I have never heard of a "strapitan seat." Is it cheap because it's uncomfortable, in which case I'll buy it, or because it's for some particular constituency (eg the less abled or young people), in which case I won't? Anyone know? I've also never heard of them but I guess, from their position on the end of the rows, part-projecting into the aisles, that they are the same as the seats in the Dorfman that look like glorified armrests for the adjacent normal seat until the ticket-holder turns up and folds this "arm rest" down through 90%, to open up a seat and back. I've sat beside one in the Dorfman and the person in it seemed perfectly comfortable and content. In retrospect, he was probably silently chortling over how much less he'd paid than I had. That helps! I had no idea what they were but I booked one on the basis of price..
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Post by Latecomer on Apr 26, 2017 10:46:33 GMT
I sat on one of those Dorfman ones and it was fine....but I quite like the front seats at Olivier and Lyttleton and I know people sometimes find them uncomfortable!I have booked one for last production at Bridge as only cheaper but close option! ☺
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