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Post by basi1faw1ty on Oct 20, 2019 16:49:47 GMT
The 17th. This went under the radar a little but last night Netflix Japan's Youtube channel leaked the official full trailer and it was up for a good few hours until they were forced to set the clip to private (after likely getting a humongous telling off from Netflix HQ).
But as with anything on the internet, when it's posted online, it's there forever.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 20, 2019 17:08:45 GMT
Hmmm...even with that cast and James Graham I still don't think I can sit through this!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 21, 2019 7:44:05 GMT
The 17th. This went under the radar a little but last night Netflix Japan's Youtube channel leaked the official full trailer and it was up for a good few hours until they were forced to set the clip to private (after likely getting a humongous telling off from Netflix HQ). But as with anything on the internet, when it's posted online, it's there forever. Well the hair’s all wrong. There’s no way that’s Chocolate Kiss 😡 |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 17, 2019 18:02:43 GMT
Been having a binge today. E03 is all about the Aberfan tragedy and is very moving. The rest so far is preposterous but lots of fun. Colman and Bonham-Carter are totally unbelievable because every time you look at them you’re just thinking “that’s Olivia Colman” “that’s Helena Bonham Carter” and for me that’s totally impossible to get over. Tobias Menzies is excellent as the new Philip, got all of the physical nuances down to a tee. Jane Lapotaire makes an appearance in E04 as the very unusual mother of Philip, Princess Alice, who rejected the trappings of Royal life and was a nun in a Greek convent.
Of course it’s all (very) loosely based on fact but some of the conversations are hysterical. I know she is playing the stoical buttoned up monarch but I don’t think Colmans expression has changed in 4 episodes. Her eyebrows may have moved. A bit. Maybe.
enjoying it though!
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Post by Jon on Nov 17, 2019 18:04:33 GMT
^How's Josh O'Connor as Charles?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 17, 2019 18:18:22 GMT
^How's Josh O'Connor as Charles? Not got there yet. |
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Post by crowblack on Nov 17, 2019 18:30:50 GMT
^How's Josh O'Connor as Charles? He's very good, though I hope the role doesn't haunt him later in his career! I fast forwarded through to get to the Aberfan and Erin Doherty/Josh O'Connor episodes - of the ones I've seen, the James Graham-scripted episode 6 is the best so far, like a little play in itself. |
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Post by lynette on Nov 17, 2019 18:38:24 GMT
I’ll be binging this week
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 18:38:59 GMT
Didn't think much of episode 1 sadly - I can't see past Olivia Colman being Olivia Colman, much as I love her, (though strangely find it easier to see Princess Margaret instead of Helena Bonham Carter) and the replacement Queen Mother looks nothing like her which doesn't help.
Let's see if the rest of the series is any better!
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Post by dippy on Nov 17, 2019 18:39:55 GMT
My favourites are 4, 6, and 10. Haven't been able to fully make it through 5 but I will watch it when with my mum when she gets that far. (Don't worry, haven't just watched The Crown today, had seen 3 episodes before today).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 21:59:23 GMT
Watched the first two episodes tonight with a selection box of M&S Viennese biscuits #rockandroll. The flower budget must be astronomical. The flowers in the White House scene were about as big as a car.
I can’t quite help feeling that Colman and HBC aren’t the right age for the characters just yet, it keeps throwing me off. I’ve just watched a bunch of This is Us so I know the technology exists to ‘youngen’ people and I don’t know why they didn’t use it.
Part of me wants to joke about last night’s episode, the one hander with Prince Andrew and Emily Maitlis but I just found it so gob-smackingly awful i can’t.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 18, 2019 11:38:29 GMT
The Queen Mother has been transformed from a nasty old bat in seasons 1 and 2 into some sort of grinning dimwit this time. The actress has got that famous smile off to a tee but the personality transplant remains unexplained.
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Post by viserys on Nov 18, 2019 11:44:21 GMT
I've only watched three episodes so far - I want to binge it all, but I ALSO want to pace myself so I can watch the last episodes on the Eurostar on my way to London on Friday, that only feels right  For me as a foreigner it's a wonderful lesson in recent British history. The Aberfan tragedy was shocking, I hadn't known about it before. Admit I also struggle a bit with seeing beyond Olivia Colman and Helena Bonham Carter because both are such famous faces. That said I've seen Tobias Menzies in plenty things before, too, but I only see Prince Philip here. |
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Post by profquatermass on Nov 18, 2019 14:43:41 GMT
Because I have no life, I watched it all yesterday. I doubt it will be Josh O'Connor's defining role - he's only in the last few episodes and presumably won't be in every episode of season 4.
I like the fact they've brought in new writers (James Graham did the one about Chas learning Welsh). Hope they do that more next series
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Post by lynette on Nov 19, 2019 16:31:56 GMT
I was in Wales at the time of the investiture and Charles' s studentship there. I was a student up the road as it were at Bangor. We had all sorts of things going on, Welsh sit ins which were great cos it meant cancellation of classes. And everything was printed in Welsh, signs in Welsh etc. My landlady spoke Welsh, but very politely changed to English when I came in the room. There were fires in English second homes in Snowdonia. I learnt no Welsh expect the basics, please, thank you and ladies' toilets. In the shops, some of them, the shop keepers spoke Welsh and didn’t like speaking English. They made it clear. I’m afraid it all went over my head somewhat. We went to Aber after the Investiture and saw the tea towels and the other souvenirs in the shops. Amusing. Tbh my friends and I thought we were serious students and Charles was a PR exercise even then when we didn’t know what PR was.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 21, 2019 23:15:53 GMT
Imelda to take over from Olivia for seasons 5 and 6
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Post by princeton on Nov 22, 2019 0:24:41 GMT
Imelda Staunton has already played The Queen, albeit a younger version, in the BBC's Cambridge Spies which was shown in 2003. Interestingly the series also featured Samuel West as Anthony Blunt.  |
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Post by Jon on Nov 22, 2019 0:26:04 GMT
I assume we won't see Imelda in The Crown until 2022 at the earliest.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 22, 2019 0:43:29 GMT
Imelda Staunton has already played The Queen, albeit a younger version, in the BBC's Cambridge Spies which was shown in 2003. Interestingly the series also featured Samuel West as Anthony Blunt. So much of the Blunt dialogue felt straight out of Single Spies during that episode. The West casting was a bit freaky given the Cambridge Spies connection. He does it very well but... |
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Post by princeton on Nov 22, 2019 1:19:49 GMT
Imelda Staunton has already played The Queen, albeit a younger version Oops my error - of course the Queen in Cambridge Spies wasn't Queen Elizabeth II, rather Queen Elizabeth the wife of King George VI - who we now know better as the Queen Mother. I guess there's precedent given that Olivia Colman played the Queen Mother - or Queen consort as she was at the time - in Hyde Park on Hudson (as did Helena Bonham Carter in The King's Speech) before playing her daughter. Whereas in a reverse move Marion Bailey played Queen Elizabeth II in Moira Buffini's Handbagged then moved on to play the Queen Mother in The Crown. And of course in Single Spies the Queen was played by Prunella Scales - mother of aforementioned Sam West. As oxfordsimon says it sometimes feels a tad freaky - I mean it's not as though we are starved of actors in the UK. |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 22, 2019 12:28:39 GMT
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Post by basi1faw1ty on Nov 22, 2019 19:33:32 GMT
I came for Charles Edwards (obviously, though he wasn't given that much to do), and stayed for Tobias and his pin point Phillip accent and Olivia Colman's Emmy winning tear.
While most of it was good (ep2/3/6 excellent, ep5 a booooooorefest), they could have done more with the silver jubliee instead of shoving it at the end of ep 10 (and showing like 2 minutes of it), like moved it to season 4 and doing ep1 of that season centred on that? Also no Princess Anne kidnap?
And damn you James Graham for making me feel empathy for Charlie. He's a bleeding good writer.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 22, 2019 20:19:44 GMT
Watched it all now. It’s fantastic from a production values perspective but totally fails on authenticity.
Please please not imelda for the older QE2.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 22, 2019 20:36:37 GMT
Episode 7 was such a chore. Did we really need to spend more time on Philip's castration anxiety? After two seasons about that?
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Post by dippy on Nov 22, 2019 20:46:57 GMT
Oh yes, I forgot how boring 7 was, it's one of the ones I saw a month or so ago so had forgotten about it. My mum has now watched 5, I fell asleep, oops. Other than those two episodes though I will happily watch any of them again.
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For me as a foreigner it's a wonderful lesson in recent British history. The Aberfan tragedy was shocking, I hadn't known about it before. 
