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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 22:29:02 GMT
Submitting nominations are now open for the WOS Awards 2017. Shortlist announced on 1st December. Love how the public are the ones who decide everything about these awards!
Any productions/performers bound to get recognised??
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Post by theatremadness on Nov 3, 2016 22:44:03 GMT
As I'm sure many posters will be quick to say, and we'll probably have lengthy discussions later on in this thread, but of course the flip side to having the public vote, is that, as is always the way with the WoS Awards, nominations are most commonly performers and shows with the biggest fan-bases.
So expect all your favourite celebs to be nominated, whether they're talented or not!
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Post by talkstageytome on Nov 3, 2016 23:28:21 GMT
Yeah I'm not sure about this either, as so many talented performers and great shows get ignored. Meanwhile we get to watch Wicked, Phantom and Les Mis battle it out for 'Best West End Show' for the millionth year in a row. Fun.
Still, I'll probably put my votes in at some point...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 2:15:44 GMT
Already submitted my nominations. Under this particular circumstance, I'm classing The Threepenny Opera as a play, so I can nominate Groundhog Day for the musicals category. They were the only two things I've seen in London this year (and Curious Incident which I listed as Beat WE Show).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 9:36:49 GMT
It's a popularity contest.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 10:18:42 GMT
Yeah I can definitely see where people are coming from there. I've voted but I haven't done it on popularity, I've done I think on who was worthy of each category.
Who have people nominated for services to theatre?
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Post by Baemax on Nov 4, 2016 10:26:40 GMT
That's the problem with awards like these though, people are going to nominate and vote for what they've seen, and as the vast majority of people won't have seen everything, it really is nothing more than a popularity contest, doubled down because first the shows have to have been popular enough for people to see, then the popular choices in and among those popular shows will have that extra boost. Pointless really.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Nov 4, 2016 10:36:20 GMT
Yeah I can definitely see where people are coming from there. I've voted but I haven't done it on popularity, I've done I think on who was worthy of each category. Who have people nominated for services to theatre? Which is still voting based on popularity.... because have you seen every show and performance in order to make an informed unbiased decision? People will vote based on what the have seen, and what they have seen will be things they were interested to see, and what they were interested to see would be based on things that made that show a popular choice for them in the first place... and so on and so on... I do not vote in these things as i haven't seen everything to be able to make a justified decision.
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Post by Michael on Nov 4, 2016 10:39:56 GMT
Who have people nominated for services to theatre? Theatreboard, I assume?
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Post by The Matthew on Nov 4, 2016 12:24:55 GMT
Who have people nominated for services to theatre? The number 38 bus?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 13:58:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 14:03:30 GMT
OMGosh! DJ14, how many times did you vote for Pixie Lott? You must have RSI on your voting finger!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 14:05:41 GMT
OMGosh! DJ14, how many times did you vote for Pixie Lott? You must have RSI on your voting finger! I can't believe she evwn got a nomination! I mean, she was good, but she hardly deserves it!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 14:14:01 GMT
I'm guessing Oliver Cheshire is on the voting panel somewhere! Otherwise, a fairly dull set of nominations and, of course, Boring Potter is going to win loads. What a shocker! Yawn. Having said that, Pixie Lott getting a nomination just goes to show how seriously we should take these particular set of awards anyway. If I couldn't see christmas decorations I'd swear I'd be checking the calendar to see whether it was April or not.
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Post by talkstageytome on Dec 1, 2016 14:51:13 GMT
Yeah, not too many surprises were there? I've voted, but only in categories where I've seen most if not all of the nominees. It's a fun and glam event in Feb, but the results are hardly surprising. I was torn on Best supporting actress in a musical (went for Rebecca Trehearn in the end though ) while my Best New Musical vote went to Groundhog Day (which looks like it could end up being the underdog in the category) without a second thought.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 15:18:08 GMT
Grr, no Gina Beck.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 16:31:01 GMT
Much as I really like Carrie, clearly she is a filler for Gina, and she got in purely on fan base, even though i'm sure she was great in Chitty. When the Oliviers come round, it will be the same 4 plus Gina no doubt!
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Post by rumbledoll on Dec 1, 2016 16:46:15 GMT
Pathetic. Do Potterheads have a sacred mission to make sure EVERYONE in the CC cast is nominated? Gotta wait for Oliviers as always to get a glimpse of true justice.
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Post by theatremadness on Dec 1, 2016 17:00:44 GMT
I mean I can complain about these awards all I want, but I'm still gonna vote ain't I. For interest to probably no one but me (to look back on!), here's how I voted. Not seen as many nominees as I thought/would've liked, but quite a few are either productions that I had no interest in seeing or productions, some regional theatre, and some productions that are really quite recent that I haven't had the time to see yet. Out of all the nominated shows I haven't seen, only have tickets for Harry Potter so far! So, I whittled the categories down to who I'd seen, and voted from that (apart from one). If I'd seen none, I didn't vote.
Best Actor Play: Only seen 2, NOT voting for Kenny B's Archie Rice, had to be Ian McKellen. Best Actress Play: Seen none, didn't vote. Best Actor Musical: Seen 2, (Michael Xavier/Andy Karl), Andy Karl without a doubt. Best Actress Musical: Again, only seen 2, (Glenn Close/Sheridan Smith), for my money, it's Sheridan Smith. Best Supporting Actor in a Play: Seen none, didn't vote Best Supporting Actress in a Play: Seen none, didn't vote Best Supporting Actor in a Musical: Seen 2, (Tyrone Huntley/Joel Montague), for sheer outstanding-ness (that's a thing now), Tyrone Huntley. Best Supporting Actress in a Musical: Only seen 1 (Rebecca Trehearn), so voted for her! Best New Play: Only seen Bank Robbery, so voted for it - would've done so anyway, I reckon! Best New Musical: Only seen 2 (School of Rock/Groundhog Day), but I'll be damned if anything would beat Groundhog Day for me. Best Play Revival: Only seen No Man's Land, so voted for it! Best Musical Revival: Happily saw 4 out of 5 here (not Ragtime), and I actually didn't have many reservations in voting for JCS. Best Direction: Seen 2 (Groundhog Day/Funny Girl), again Groundhog Day wins here. Best Choreography: Again, 2 on the list I'd seen (Groundhog Day/JCS), voted for Groundhog Day. Best Costume Design: This is the only time I'm breaking my rule, as I've only seen Funny Girl, but wanted to give it to Half A Sixpence. Best Set Design: Only seen 2 (Show Boat/Groundhog Day), went for Groundhog Day. Best Lighting Design: Only seen Groundhog Day on that list, so voted for it! Best Video Design: Again, only saw Groundhog Day so voted for that. Though I suspect that's Lazarus' for the win! Best Off-West End Production: Only saw Last 5 Years, so that was that. Best Regional Production: Seen none, didn't vote. Best West End Show: Seen 'em all, always vote Les Mis but I don't think I've actually seen it this year, so Kinky Boots!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:40:53 GMT
Glad Dreamgirls got a look in.
Voted for Sheridan, Funny Girl and Dreamgirls mainly.
Nice article on WoS too about how it's been such a great year for theatre!!
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Post by Michael on Dec 1, 2016 18:49:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 20:08:29 GMT
What a farce!
Dreamgirls is in previews and it gets nominations?!
Half a Sixpence considered a 'New Musical'?
No nomination for Gina Beck, but Carrie Hope Fletcher, a replacement in a UK tour gets a look in?
Bring on the Oliviers.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Dec 1, 2016 20:16:32 GMT
Billie and Jonjo should be shoe-ins, but perhaps in too small theatres for a publicly voted awards.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 7:46:02 GMT
I'm not gonna lie, I'm thrilled for Half a Sixpence getting the amount it has and deserves to have.
Slightly peeved Louise and Laura didn't nab nominations for Side Show though.
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Post by theatremadhatter on Dec 2, 2016 10:24:12 GMT
Just catching up on nomination announcements.. Is anyone else slightly confused by Dreamgirls nominations? I mean it only had 5 shows of previews before the nominations ended. There are a few suspect nominations in there for sure. I guess I can believe one tweet from Amber Riley could get enough votes in 4 days, even she tweeted she was surprised they were eligible. But Casey? Adam Bernard? Smells fishy! Sonia Friedman strikes again... must have some huge e-mail databases. For me it just shows up a flawed system for WhatsOnStage. Having said that I have heard that they are deserving I just can't see how they physically got the figures in 5 shows even if every audience member voted.
I voted mostly for Groundhog Day so I'm happy anyway!
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Post by Stasia on Dec 6, 2016 9:26:43 GMT
The thing that surprised me more than Dreamgirls nominations are nominating Tyrone's Judas as a SUPPORTING part. Like, seriously? Judas with 3 or 4 solo songs and lots of other moments is a supporting character? I thought the whole story was about him as much as it was about Jesus, if not bigger
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Post by distantcousin on Dec 6, 2016 12:27:09 GMT
It's a popularity contest. and generally cornered by people who covet social media the most and will indulge as many people as possible in stage-door selfies. *shudders*
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Post by distantcousin on Dec 6, 2016 12:30:33 GMT
That's the problem with awards like these though, people are going to nominate and vote for what they've seen, and as the vast majority of people won't have seen everything, it really is nothing more than a popularity contest, doubled down because first the shows have to have been popular enough for people to see, then the popular choices in and among those popular shows will have that extra boost. Pointless really. "Awards don't matter" I always quote Ab Fab because I have huge issues with the whole concept of giving awards for artforms.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 18:25:09 GMT
The show is tonight, and the pre show is live on facebook at the moment! Lucie Jones looks stunning! Can't wait to see who wins what!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 19:08:30 GMT
Before it begins, these were the predictions I made the other day. Not based on who I want to win particularly, but some I most definitely want to win! But also taking into consideration fanbase, time of year, popularity haha. So these are what I see taking what! Time will only tell if I am even remotely close to right. • Best Actor in a Play (Ian McKellen for No Mans Land) • Best Actress in a Play (Billie Piper for Yerma) • Best Actor in a Musical (Andy Karl for Groundhog Day) • Best Actress in a Musical (Amber Riley for Dreamgirls) • Best Supporting Actor in a Play (Anthony Boyle for Harry Potter and the Cursed Child) • Best Supporting Actress in a Play (Noma Dumezweni for Harry Potter and the Cursed Child) • Best Supporting Actor in a Musical(Tyrone Huntley for Jesus Christ Superstar) • Best Supporting Actress in a Musical (Victoria Hamilton-Barritt for Murder Ballad) • Best New Play (Harry Potter and the Cursed Child) • Best New Musical (Dreamgirls) • Best Play Revival (No Man's Land) • Best Musical Revival (Funny Girl) • Best Direction (John Tiffany for Harry Potter and the Cursed Child) • Best Choreography (Andrew Wright for Half a Sixpence) • Best Costume Design (Gregg Barnes for Dreamgirls) • Best Set Design (Christine Jones for Harry Potter and the Cursed Child) • Best Lighting Design (Neil Austin for Harry Potter and the Cursed Child) • Best Video Design (Finn Ross and Ash Woodward for Harry Potter and the Cursed Child) • Best Off-West End Production (The Last Five Years) • Best Regional Production (Rent) • Best West End Show (Wicked)
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