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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 6:41:00 GMT
I've just listened to a recording of Jacqueline and the orchestra are so fast, especially during the flying section. Jacqueline doesn't have much time to hold some of her notes. I remember the same thing happening on the last tour. The orchestra does sound faster than usual. ButiIt actually sounds to me like she did have enough time to hold some of the notes, but just chose not to.
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Post by daniel on Jan 25, 2017 8:59:48 GMT
She was cutting those notes short on the last tour too. Seems like the tiniest of things but I thought it loses so much impact when those notes are cut short. It was probably the thing about her performance that bugged me the most.
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Post by singularsensation10 on Jan 25, 2017 9:28:29 GMT
It's a tactic a lot of singers use when they're in a long run. Anyone who doesn't know the show wouldn't notice.
SJB did it when she was on the US tour back in 2005 (thinking of her early "sew i yuh care t fine m" with practically no vowels - but that shows how geeky I am), along with the optional low note to avoid the high F.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 16:20:43 GMT
I have officially decided I will be going to Liverpool as it works out cheaper on the whole for me. I have booked my tickets for the closing day!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 22:00:41 GMT
Does anyone know what front row seating is like in the Manchester Palace Theatre? Is the leg room good, is the view obstructed by stage height?
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Post by daniel on Jan 29, 2017 23:17:49 GMT
Does anyone know what front row seating is like in the Manchester Palace Theatre? Is the leg room good, is the view obstructed by stage height? We were 2nd row for Lion King and I remember the stage being very high. Though this was 4 years ago so my memory may have blurred somewhat. Sat Row O Stalls for Wicked there last time and it was perfect, definitely recommend being a bit further back.
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Post by benny20 on Jan 29, 2017 23:46:18 GMT
I think you would miss stuff on the front to row. I think once you are about 6 rows back or a bit more it is best
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Post by shady23 on Jan 30, 2017 8:21:39 GMT
That's no good... If you're not seen by the cast it doesn't count, right?
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Post by daniel on Jan 30, 2017 8:35:22 GMT
That's no good... If you're not seen by the cast it doesn't count, right? Shady by name.....
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Post by westendwendy on Jan 30, 2017 13:25:16 GMT
IT hurts my ears to hear this show in an English accent (sorry I've said before I know) I saw the original cast on Broadway and it was one of the best shows of my life. Saw it on the West End last year and was one of the worst copies ever! Moving the accents add a class act structure and changes the whole feel, subtext of the production; Glindas characterisation, American vaudeville, rydell high type clueless humour and style of the whole musical. (And I get Oz is made up). Dancing through life becomes toffy and darncing through life and it's just not funny apart from titters in the song Popular. The vowels are written for an American voice. Staccato British accents ruin the timbre of the songs. The audience laughed twice in the show at the Apollo Victoria - with Kristen and Idina, the original cast the audience were screaming laughing. I so wish I loved it on the West End but I can't bare to see it ruined.
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Post by shady23 on Jan 30, 2017 13:48:49 GMT
Having heard Ben Freeman act Fiyero in an American voice I'd be quite happy to never hear an American voice in the show again!
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Post by Michael on Jan 30, 2017 15:21:27 GMT
I've just seen the show three times in the US and hugely prefer British accents. In fact, I fail to understand how anyone who has seen both could not.
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Post by LaLuPone on Jan 30, 2017 16:01:55 GMT
I think it's just better to hear it in your own accent. It feels more accessible to me in the British accents but I can see that Americans would prefer it with the American accent.
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Post by ali973 on Jan 30, 2017 17:20:08 GMT
I've just seen the show three times in the US and hugely prefer British accents. In fact, I fail to understand how anyone who has seen both could not. I find the UK version horribly irksome. It's an American story written by an American team. Glinda works better as a ditzy Beverley Hills blonde.
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Post by Dan213 on Jan 30, 2017 17:34:44 GMT
I've just seen the show three times in the US and hugely prefer British accents. In fact, I fail to understand how anyone who has seen both could not. I find the UK version horribly irksome. It's an American story written by an American team. Glinda works better as a ditzy Beverley Hills blonde. It's not an American story in any way shape or form. It may have been written by American writers, but the story isn't set in the USA, or any other real place for that matter.
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Post by ali973 on Jan 30, 2017 17:51:05 GMT
yea..yea..yea..I'm not just singling out Wicked. Lion King sounds dreadful in a British accent too. So glad they at least stuck to American English in Aladdin. Interestingly, the Australian Wicked is done in American English. I actually would have expected them to do it in Australian..since it's not set in the USA or real place for that matter, right Dan213?
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Post by Dan213 on Jan 30, 2017 18:00:35 GMT
yea..yea..yea..I'm not just singling out Wicked. Lion King sounds dreadful in a British accent too. So glad they at least stuck to American English in Aladdin. Interestingly, the Australian Wicked is done in American English. I actually would have expected them to do it in Australian..since it's not set in the USA or real place for that matter, right Dan213? Must be the same as how the Dutch production is in Dutch, The Mexican production in Spanish, The Brazilian production is in Portuguese etc If you're a non-UK English speaker then perhaps that's why it sounds weird, but to the vast majority of UK audiences, it works perfectly well, if not far better in an English RP accent, as the message is conveyed more clearly
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 30, 2017 18:28:32 GMT
I've been unable to listen to the cast recording since I first saw the London production back in 2006. Having heard it in RP (which to me is "normal") I can't bear hearing it sung with American accents. It annoys me when some Elphabas put American vowels into the songs. Kerry Ellis was particularly bad with this, especially after her Broadway stint.
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Post by Jon on Jan 30, 2017 19:33:50 GMT
I think Wicked with British accents works well, the only character that needs to be American is the Wizard.
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Post by daniel on Jan 31, 2017 1:20:54 GMT
Have any of the Asian stops on the tour previously been visited by the American-accented Asian tour? I'd be intrigued to know what people who have seen both in the same city/theatre thought of the difference.
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Post by westendwendy on Jan 31, 2017 8:15:56 GMT
The issue isn't so much with the sound of the accents - the show is less funny in different accents. Period. Look at bootleg copies of the show on Broadway and then to the same with the West End version. It's like it's a different show (and don't blame the audience social difference) I screamed laughing in New York.
As someone pointed out Kerry Ellis couldn't decide if she was singing the songs in American or English, that's because the vowels, style, phrasing and whole make up of the songs were created for American voices.
Like with the OZ productions they just should have stuck to American like Aladdin. I totally understand it is a fictional place, but the show style and humour suffers terribly because of this.
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Post by westendwendy on Jan 31, 2017 8:19:58 GMT
I've just seen the show three times in the US and hugely prefer British accents. In fact, I fail to understand how anyone who has seen both could not. I find the UK version horribly irksome. It's an American story written by an American team. Glinda works better as a ditzy Beverley Hills blonde. That's the whole point - it changes Glindas character from a clueless type cheerleader from LA to an upper class privilaged toff. Changing the accent actually morphs the show into something else. It's soooooo much funnier as a ditzy Beverly Hills girl. Completely agree!!!
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Post by wicked on Feb 20, 2017 20:49:06 GMT
Any truth in the rumours that the tour is being cut short to finish early in July?
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Post by infofreako on Feb 20, 2017 21:15:21 GMT
Any truth in the rumours that the tour is being cut short to finish early in July? Think that's the current international tour. Doubt it will impact this tour
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Post by wicked on Feb 20, 2017 21:32:47 GMT
Any truth in the rumours that the tour is being cut short to finish early in July? Think that's the current international tour. Doubt it will impact this tour Oh whoops sorry wrong thread!
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Post by welsh_tenor on Feb 27, 2017 11:19:32 GMT
Just announced that Bristol has extended so updated list below, tour now opens 31st January.
Confirmed UK venues and dates:
* Bristol Hippodrome 31st January to 3rd March 2018
* Liverpool Empire 7th March 2018 to 31st 2018.
* Birmingham Hippodrome 4th April 2018 to 28th April 2018
* Edinburgh Playhouse 8th May 2018 to 9th June 2018
* Leeds Grand Theatre 13th June 2018 to 7th July 2018
* Dublin Bord Gais Theatre 17th July 2018 to 25th August 2018
* Sunderland Empire 4th September 2018 to 29th September 2018
* Southampton Mayflower 3rd October 2018 to 27th October 2018
* Cardiff Wales Millenium Centre 31st October 2018 to 24th November 2018
* Manchester Palace Theatre 4th December 2018 to 5th January 2019
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Post by welsh_tenor on Apr 13, 2017 7:11:30 GMT
Posting here as the International Wicked thread has gone a bit off topic....
With NDJ, Ashleigh and Jackie coming from Standby roles it would be a safe assumption that they'll bump up either Alice or Jodie to the tour lead - Jodie has been so consistent on tour and been "unofficial alternate" since they went overseas I would be surprised if they did anything other than give her a shot at it! Other than Jodie or Alice my outside punt would be Natalie McQueen - Natalie was on WoS (I think!) 10 people to watch list and has had some great roles since leaving London - she could be Standby at least if she didn't get the lead.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jul 2, 2017 13:52:44 GMT
With the international tour having played their last performance, hopefully we won't have to wait too long for casting announcements for the next tour!
Whilst the marketing billed this as the new UK & Ireland tour, Zurich is still on sale so it's an assumption that Zurich will be the first stop before it comes back to the Blighty!?
Confirmed venues and dates:
* Theatre 11, Zurich 15th November to 31st December 2017
* Bristol Hippodrome 31st January to 3rd March 2018
* Liverpool Empire 7th March 2018 to 31st 2018.
* Birmingham Hippodrome 4th April 2018 to 28th April 2018
* Edinburgh Playhouse 8th May 2018 to 9th June 2018
* Leeds Grand Theatre 13th June 2018 to 7th July 2018
* Dublin Bord Gais Theatre 17th July 2018 to 25th August 2018
* Sunderland Empire 4th September 2018 to 29th September 2018
* Southampton Mayflower 3rd October 2018 to 27th October 2018
* Cardiff Wales Millenium Centre 31st October 2018 to 24th November 2018
* Manchester Palace Theatre 4th December 2018 to 5th January 2019
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Post by AliceFearnFan2212 on Jul 2, 2017 17:53:06 GMT
With the international tour having played their last performance, hopefully we won't have to wait too long for casting announcements for the next tour! Whilst the marketing billed this as the new UK & Ireland tour, Zurich is still on sale so it's an assumption that Zurich will be the first stop before it comes back to the Blighty!? Confirmed venues and dates: * Theatre 11, Zurich 15th November to 31st December 2017 * Bristol Hippodrome 31st January to 3rd March 2018 * Liverpool Empire 7th March 2018 to 31st 2018. * Birmingham Hippodrome 4th April 2018 to 28th April 2018 * Edinburgh Playhouse 8th May 2018 to 9th June 2018 * Leeds Grand Theatre 13th June 2018 to 7th July 2018 * Dublin Bord Gais Theatre 17th July 2018 to 25th August 2018 * Sunderland Empire 4th September 2018 to 29th September 2018 * Southampton Mayflower 3rd October 2018 to 27th October 2018 * Cardiff Wales Millenium Centre 31st October 2018 to 24th November 2018 * Manchester Palace Theatre 4th December 2018 to 5th January 2019 I think Zurich is the start of a different tour as I've been told by a cast member that the Zurich cast won't be the same as the UK Tour cast
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Post by Dan213 on Jul 2, 2017 18:33:03 GMT
With the international tour having played their last performance, hopefully we won't have to wait too long for casting announcements for the next tour! Whilst the marketing billed this as the new UK & Ireland tour, Zurich is still on sale so it's an assumption that Zurich will be the first stop before it comes back to the Blighty!? Confirmed venues and dates: * Theatre 11, Zurich 15th November to 31st December 2017 * Bristol Hippodrome 31st January to 3rd March 2018 * Liverpool Empire 7th March 2018 to 31st 2018. * Birmingham Hippodrome 4th April 2018 to 28th April 2018 * Edinburgh Playhouse 8th May 2018 to 9th June 2018 * Leeds Grand Theatre 13th June 2018 to 7th July 2018 * Dublin Bord Gais Theatre 17th July 2018 to 25th August 2018 * Sunderland Empire 4th September 2018 to 29th September 2018 * Southampton Mayflower 3rd October 2018 to 27th October 2018 * Cardiff Wales Millenium Centre 31st October 2018 to 24th November 2018 * Manchester Palace Theatre 4th December 2018 to 5th January 2019 I think Zurich is the start of a different tour as I've been told by a cast member that the Zurich cast won't be the same as the UK Tour cast With the only tour announced being the UK tour, I highly doubt they'll announce another tour at short notice, nor will they have a cast just for Zurich. It's more than likely going to be the UK tour cast
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