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Post by profquatermass on Aug 10, 2018 20:30:12 GMT
Is 40-60 what counts as old for women nowadays?
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 10, 2018 21:07:03 GMT
Is 40-60 what counts as old for women nowadays? I jolly well hope not or, as a currently 33 year old, do I have to give up going near any stage doors in 7 years or be stigmatised?
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Post by yokollama on Aug 10, 2018 23:52:51 GMT
Is 40-60 what counts as old for women nowadays? I jolly well hope not or, as a currently 33 year old, do I have to give up going near any stage doors in 7 years or be stigmatised? Sorry, my mistake with the wording. I meant greater than my age range (EDIT: *older*), and it is not my intention to put a cap on things. I was merely pointing out that nearly 90% of the crowd appeared to fall within those years - not that that should have any bearing on anything, but I was in a rant mode with my post, especially what with all the hoopla younger women sometimes get for their "fangirl" actions. I don't really frequent the stage door, but my experiences have generally been positive thus far. We're imposing on the actors enough as it is, and I expected people to treat the cast and fellow theatre-goers with more respect. Say, less screaming and outright shoving people out of the way?
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 11, 2018 1:35:36 GMT
The tremendous Catherine Tate. We’d been to see her fantastic live show at De Montfort Hall in Leicester and were buying some merch afterwards (a v funny tea towel, of all things). The man at the counter told us that Miss T would be signing any merch at the stage door, so we made our way around. There was quite a crowd (and it was a bitterly cold night), but Catherine cheerfully signed everything anyone had. She took dozens of selfies with people on their phones. We were the very last in the queue. She took the time to ask us how we’d enjoyed the show, sign our tea towel, and take a number of selfies. We told her we’d seen her being equally brilliant in Much Ado About Nothing, and she talked about that for a while, until her minder dragged her back into the warm. Great show. Lovely lady. I had much the same experience with future Dame Tate. She actually photobombed me and I didn’t realise till months later (camera broke). Apropos of nothing, Charlie Edwards shops in my local M&S.
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Post by hannechalk on Aug 11, 2018 22:10:22 GMT
Drama after Blood Brothers (Tour) once when Marti Pellow was starring. Can't remember where, but a young woman appeared completely hysterical- 'Marti,it wasn't me! Marti, you have to believe me, it wasn't me!'. When Marti said something like 'But i saw you filming. Several people saw it.'. And she keeps crying and crying 'It wasn't me!'. He appeared to know her as well.
If I go to a show on my own, I tend to do SD, and always stop after Blood Brothers to say hi. If they're in a rush, fine, and if they have time for a chat, wonderful.
For newbies, when doing SD, and I don't mean to sound pedantic, just bear in mind they don't have chauffeur-driven limousines. Many have to catch public transport to digs/home, or want to keep costs down for car parks, or people (other cast/crew) are waiting for them to give them a lift home, especially on a Saturday.
I'm just saying this as I recently read a comment on social media from a woman who thought all cast of all shows were put up in a nearby hotel, she had no idea they had to find and pay for digs, or their own transport there or home.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 12, 2018 8:23:41 GMT
^If he shopped in your local S&M, that might be news.
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Post by kimbahorel on Sept 6, 2018 22:07:37 GMT
Wow 😲 how rude!
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Post by raider80 on Sept 12, 2018 3:05:30 GMT
At the off-Broadway show "Be More Chill" some fans have been harassing on the actors Gerard Canonico and his loved ones for being straight with a girlfriend and not gay as some of the fans thought. Apparently one on of the fans got his girlfriends number and threatened her not to mess with the fans and if she did all hell would break lose. The poor girl had to change her number because of this. From the stories I've heard from some friends back at NYC is "Be More Chill" stage door is getting out of control with the legions of teenage super fans and with it transferring to Broadway next spring the crazy fans are going to get worse before they get better. Here is the Reddit Thread with the text message from the super fan.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 9:56:08 GMT
At the off-Broadway show "Be More Chill" some fans have been harassing on the actors Gerard Canonico and his loved ones for being straight with a girlfriend and not gay as some of the fans thought. Apparently one on of the fans got his girlfriends number and threatened her not to mess with the fans and if she did all hell would break lose. The poor girl had to change her number because of this. From the stories I've heard from some friends back at NYC is "Be More Chill" stage door is getting out of control with the legions of teenage super fans and with it transferring to Broadway next spring the crazy fans are going to get worse before they get better. Here is the Reddit Thread with the text message from the super fan. Holy f*ck, that's crazy! Some people really need to get a life. I have stage doored several times in the West End and even though some Wicked fans are crazy, people are generally kind and respectful. Broadway is on another level of craziness.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 12, 2018 11:29:59 GMT
Oh tinhats. I don't know why but tinhatting is rather in vogue now. (Remind me how many fake kids Benny Cumberbritches is on now?)
It is a truth universally acknowledged that any man in possession of both fame and a female partner will have "stans" online claiming his relationship is fake and threatening his partner.
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Post by kathryn on Sept 12, 2018 12:00:21 GMT
I don't think they're accusing the girlfriend of being fake just yet, rather, they are angry that she is real! Though give it time....
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Post by kimbahorel on Sept 12, 2018 14:11:42 GMT
Posted in Heathers topic but thiught i'd post here too
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Post by indis on Sept 12, 2018 19:51:01 GMT
does this mean no SD photos because of too many Carrie Fans?
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Post by kimbahorel on Sept 12, 2018 20:46:38 GMT
does this mean no SD photos because of too many Carrie Fans? From what I can gather yes.
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Post by SageStageMgr on Sept 12, 2018 22:25:34 GMT
Carrie Hope Fletcher, every single morning.
*jumps up and down and waves arms* “LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT MEEEE”
... 3 minutes later ...
“Stop staring at me! This is harassment! Why won’t you all leave me alone?!”
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Post by Stephen on Sept 12, 2018 23:34:54 GMT
In fairness to Lady Fletcher she hasn't gone on one of her big rants about the stage door at the Haymarket yet.
She always has a point and no actor should be harassed but she'll never be able to change the way that the silly public behave.
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Post by SageStageMgr on Sept 12, 2018 23:38:12 GMT
In fairness to Lady Fletcher she hasn't gone on one of her big rants about the stage door at the Haymarket yet. She always has a point and no actor should be harassed but she'll never be able to change the way that the silly public behave. Who are the large portion of the plebite market of teenage girls she panders to as a social media “influencer”... Otherwise she would be just another young West End lady.
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Post by Stephen on Sept 12, 2018 23:40:18 GMT
In fairness to Lady Fletcher she hasn't gone on one of her big rants about the stage door at the Haymarket yet. She always has a point and no actor should be harassed but she'll never be able to change the way that the silly public behave. Who are the large portion of the plebite market of teenage girls she panders to as a social media “influencer”... Otherwise she would be just another young West End lady. What bothers me about the whole Heathers 'thing' is that I assume I'll be annoyed by the audience behaviour unlike at Hamilton when the fans did go crazy but only at appropriate times. I'd imagine this bad behaviour will extend to the stage door too! I guess I'll see when I go.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 0:32:29 GMT
Another cast member Jodie Steele had put on Twitter about receiving loads of presents. I'd always considered Carrie a blogger rather than an influencer - none of her fan base have decided to get perms in her honour to achieve her admittedly natural curly look or when they are old enough go on birth control so they can achieve their idol's shape.
Ironically talking of curly hair I was at a Beth Rowley concert tonight and was talking to a regular concert goer who I see at a lot of gigs as we waited in the signing line. This gentleman turned 60 this year and took early retirement due to a back issue, he walks with a stick and has to have a stool at standing gigs but is very quietly spoken or so I thought. Suddenly out of character he yelled "Get to the back of the line" to someone who had noticed trying to queue jump at the side,
Beth looked around and saw the rather embarrassed victim complaining to Beth's husband who was selling the merch. Beth's husband handed her the guy's item and she quickly signed it but took time to chat to everyone else who had waited. My friend wasn't happy that this guy had had his item signed but didn't say anything further as he now felt guilty he had embarrassed Beth.
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Post by raider80 on Oct 24, 2018 15:13:47 GMT
Laura Benanti has announced that she isn't going to stage door at all during her run of My Fair Lady for health reasons but, she is going to go the extra mile by pre-signing a bunch of playbills to be handed out after each show. I like that she is going to let people know in advance but, let's be honest, the crazy fans will still get mad and complain all over twitter. Laura Benanti
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 15:43:13 GMT
If fans still complain about it and don't understand she's doing this for health reasons, then they shouldn't call themselves fans anymore.
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Post by christya on Oct 24, 2018 15:51:06 GMT
It seems she's taking very reasonable precautions for her health, so anyone who whines about it is just generally rotten. I'm actually surprised more performers don't avoid SD for health reasons, even without a problematic immune system, as all the unpredictable touching from strangers has to be a great way to catch bugs. I know I've read more than one celebrity saying how ill they get after conventions, even if all they do is shake hands.
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Post by hannechalk on Oct 29, 2018 0:03:59 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter.
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Post by martello736 on Oct 29, 2018 9:22:08 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter. Just had a nose on Twitter and spotted one particular fan who tagged Linzi in 29 tweets in the week before she left Twitter, including once replying to a tweet someone posted about getting a cast recording with Lyn Paul (that Lyn was tagged in) saying that she had no name recognition and was a nobody and they should do one with Linzi instead - which Lyn later graciously replied to, managing not to call the person in question a c**t as I would have done. Don’t know much about Linzi Hateley but nobody deserves that.
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Post by hannechalk on Oct 29, 2018 10:27:37 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter. Just had a nose on Twitter and spotted one particular fan who tagged Linzi in 29 tweets in the week before she left Twitter, including once replying to a tweet someone posted about getting a cast recording with Lyn Paul (that Lyn was tagged in) saying that she had no name recognition and was a nobody and they should do one with Linzi instead - which Lyn later graciously replied to, managing not to call the person in question a c**t as I would have done. Don’t know much about Linzi Hateley but nobody deserves that. That's the one.
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Post by shady23 on Oct 29, 2018 12:38:08 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter. Just had a nose on Twitter and spotted one particular fan who tagged Linzi in 29 tweets in the week before she left Twitter, including once replying to a tweet someone posted about getting a cast recording with Lyn Paul (that Lyn was tagged in) saying that she had no name recognition and was a nobody and they should do one with Linzi instead - which Lyn later graciously replied to, managing not to call the person in question a c**t as I would have done. Don’t know much about Linzi Hateley but nobody deserves that. Some Wicked fans tweet the same people constantly. Everyone likes a compliment, but even they must get sick of being sent the same "you're so inspiring" "you're were amazing in the show yesterday" constantly by the same few people, especially as they will have heard the same thing at stage door too.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 29, 2018 12:43:34 GMT
There's a reason why Twitter has a mute button.
(There are some fans of actors who literally tweet them everyday - hello/good morning/good night/this is what I've done today/this is what I'm thinking about - without ever getting a reply or a like. I do wonder what drives them to do it.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 17:44:18 GMT
Shame Linzi has taken a break from Twitter, she has always engaged with her fans and would respond with a like or a thanks. She has always made time at SD for fans too - she even introduced her daughter who is training to be an actress to some of us once and when I've seen Linzi since I've always asked how the training is going.
Some people do intrude too much in both person or online. A quick thanks, maybe just asking if performer has anything else coming up if near end of run, saying best of luck with the run, good performance etc. A few performers I may know a little bit better so they may chat a bit longer but I never keep them too long and often actually end the conversation myself.
Better known performers who have a number of fans may wait to chat to those they know better at the end after they have done the selfies, signings etc. But some fans won't wait and will try to engage a performer in a full conversation with another 20 odd people waiting. It is a lot easier to have a chat in a small group and gives the performers more space especially if they may need to watch their bags.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Oct 31, 2018 14:26:28 GMT
It's the desire to quantify a relationship, and to try to turn fanship into friendship.
I was my best friend last night (famous within the theatre world but not at all outside of it) and I ended up standing next to the taxi waiting to go back to his house for about 15 minutes because two of his fans who come to see everything he does were so determined to get more than the "standard fan" amount of interaction. And ignored him point blank saying "okay thanks for coming, lovely to see you again, I should catch up with my friends now" about three times. Or only heard "thanks for coming, lovely to see you again." They all follow me on Twitter and from what I've seen, they obviously think they're genuinely friends with him.
The thing is they are really nice. Fans are nearly always really nice. They're nice to me, even though they clearly think they know him better than I do. But a lot of them just don't get that being a fan or super fan doesn't equate to friendship. It doesn't matter how many times you stage door someone or how many lovely chats you have, even if a celeb genuinely appreciates your support and enjoys talking to you (and many celebs DO enjoy and appreciate it) you aren't friends and never will be. There's this weird attitude within fandom that if you manage to 'land' 10 minutes of chat with someone it somehow means you know them better or have a closer relationship than the fan who only got 1 minute of chat. When the person who chatted for 1 minute and politely saw that it wasn't the time for a longer conversation probably left a better impression.
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Post by Snciole on Oct 31, 2018 15:11:46 GMT
The tremendous Catherine Tate. We’d been to see her fantastic live show at De Montfort Hall in Leicester and were buying some merch afterwards (a v funny tea towel, of all things). The man at the counter told us that Miss T would be signing any merch at the stage door, so we made our way around. There was quite a crowd (and it was a bitterly cold night), but Catherine cheerfully signed everything anyone had. She took dozens of selfies with people on their phones. We were the very last in the queue. She took the time to ask us how we’d enjoyed the show, sign our tea towel, and take a number of selfies. We told her we’d seen her being equally brilliant in Much Ado About Nothing, and she talked about that for a while, until her minder dragged her back into the warm. Great show. Lovely lady. I had much the same experience with future Dame Tate. She actually photobombed me and I didn’t realise till months later (camera broke). Apropos of nothing, Charlie Edwards shops in my local M&S. If Charles Edwards is your best friend then I am on the side of those hysterical fans.
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