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Post by missthelma on Jul 14, 2019 13:32:42 GMT
Special mention must go to the delicate flower yesterday who threw their shoeless trotters over the back of the seat in front so that they hung there like pasty lampshades. They were moved to perch on the wall of the Olivier side stalls and then returned to hanging free. There was somebody sitting ONE SEAT AWAY from your dangling hooves.
It was hot yesterday
Be grateful I was two rows away and some seats to your left or we would have been engaged in a lively discussion about your foot display
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 14, 2019 15:11:06 GMT
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Post by xanady on Jul 14, 2019 15:54:03 GMT
Maybe there was a spare Dalek around to have a word with Ms Manning.
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Post by Backdrifter on Jul 14, 2019 19:26:53 GMT
Could have put this in 'Famous People...' too but fits better here - Katy Manning, formerly of Pertwee-era Doctor Who, was wearing an annoyingly jangly bracelet at Death of a Salesman tonight. Very distracting for a while during the first half but I think somebody had a word during the interval. I think she essentially consists of lipstick, nails, fur stoles and jangly bracelets. I'm not sure there's any actual flesh and bone left is there?
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Post by waybeyondblue on Jul 14, 2019 19:41:17 GMT
Could have put this in 'Famous People...' too but fits better here - Katy Manning, formerly of Pertwee-era Doctor Who, was wearing an annoyingly jangly bracelet at Death of a Salesman tonight. Very distracting for a while during the first half but I think somebody had a word during the interval. I think she essentially consists of lipstick, nails, fur stoles and jangly bracelets. I'm not sure there's any actual flesh and bone left is there? She is a National Treasure and as such exempt from the pettifoggy ephemera above.
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Post by Backdrifter on Jul 15, 2019 14:51:01 GMT
I think she essentially consists of lipstick, nails, fur stoles and jangly bracelets. I'm not sure there's any actual flesh and bone left is there? She is a National Treasure and as such exempt from the pettifoggy ephemera above. Blimey. I need to re-read the official National Treasure criteria. By the way, nice evoking of the voice of John Peel there. "Great band, great session, this is Pettifoggy Ephemera."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 15:21:55 GMT
In The Stage today is an article about Ushers now being fitted with body cameras to protect themselves from violent and aggressive behavior from audiences. The scheme is currently being piloted in a few theatres with a look to being rolled out in more across the country. One particular quote jumped out at me: This is incredibly distressing news, in my opinion. It's such a shame that society seems to be regressing and that these measures have had to be introduce for staff safety in an environment that should be positive.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 16, 2019 16:06:26 GMT
In The Stage today is an article about Ushers now being fitted with body cameras to protect themselves from violent and aggressive behavior from audiences. The scheme is currently being piloted in a few theatres with a look to being rolled out in more across the country. One particular quote jumped out at me: This is incredibly distressing news, in my opinion. It's such a shame that society seems to be regressing and that these measures have had to be introduce for staff safety in an environment that should be positive. Can you link to it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 18:51:48 GMT
In The Stage today is an article about Ushers now being fitted with body cameras to protect themselves from violent and aggressive behavior from audiences. The scheme is currently being piloted in a few theatres with a look to being rolled out in more across the country. One particular quote jumped out at me: This is incredibly distressing news, in my opinion. It's such a shame that society seems to be regressing and that these measures have had to be introduce for staff safety in an environment that should be positive. Can you link to it? www.thestage.co.uk/news/2019/ushers-fitted-with-body-cameras-to-combat-increase-in-aggressive-theatregoers/May get hit by the paywall...
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Post by xanady on Jul 16, 2019 19:17:10 GMT
^This is frankly a disgrace...I thought I was unshockable but this just about takes the biscuit...
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Post by david on Jul 16, 2019 19:30:13 GMT
Having read the article, I’m glad that body cameras are being used to ensures the safety of both FOH staff and theatre patrons from those idiots who cannot show any self control in the theatre and just enjoy the show that they have paid good money to come and watch. As the article states and I totally agree with, there are certain shows like Mamma Mia! which are more predisposed to having the hen party crowds.
Though as a contrast, I was at a Saturday evening performance of “Of mice and men” at the Manc Opera House about 2yrs ago. The first Act was totally ruined by 2 intoxicated women who finally got chucked out by theatre security. Like with all good things in life, it’s the mindless few that spoils them for everybody else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 19:30:38 GMT
^This is frankly a disgrace...I thought I was unshockable but this just about takes the biscuit... Debt Collectors and PCSO's wearing them makes sense, I'm in favour of that. But seriously what has gone wrong with society when Ushers of Theatres are being asked to wear them for their own safety? This is where we know, for sure, something has gone far too wrong. I'd be really interested to know what Theatres are doing the trials, if that provides a clue as to audience demographics, etc. I have a feeling Jukebox Musicals attract the worst sorts and without wanting to distract from the severity of the topic, if it means banning all Jukeboxes I will happily sign that decree!
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Post by CG on the loose on Jul 16, 2019 21:26:39 GMT
The bit about some ushers not wanting to work some days shocked me, too. I knew it was bad for them, but not that awful. Still, it explains the shock then grin from the usher at the Palladium last Saturday, when I said please and thank you as I bought my programme... I've noticed a distinctly surprised reaction from a number of FOH staff to common courtesy recently... sad times.
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Post by marob on Jul 16, 2019 21:57:58 GMT
I was surprised a few weeks ago to see a member of staff on a train wearing a body cam. That's bad enough, but that it's considered necessary in theatres now is hugely depressing.
Though the fact this is happening on Friday and Saturday evenings makes me wonder if it's time for them to review their policies on sale and consumption of alcohol? Because surely promoting your bar being open 90 minutes to an hour before the start of the show is only going to help fuel these incidents.
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Post by justfran on Jul 16, 2019 22:03:34 GMT
Having worked in a regional venue we definitely noticed a difference in audiences after the first tour of Dirty Dancing. To generalise - it is groups of women who cause the most problems (not always but often) and it’s sad that it’s come to staff having to wear cameras but safety first always. Audience members need to take responsibility for themselves and their friends/relatives - it’s hard for staff to police the actions of 1000+ people.
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Post by Jon on Jul 17, 2019 10:20:38 GMT
I suspect no theatre would be willing to ban alcohol as it’s a huge profit driver,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 11:08:50 GMT
Right up until a decade or so ago, it was a real shame to be hauled in front of a magistrate for "drunk and disorderly." These days, nobody does anything about it at all. Add that theatres (and retailers) find booze the easiest thing to sell, and that's the problem. May be time to set public intoxication limits just like driving a car. Allow breath-tests and allow the right to refuse admission. Let trained security staff deal with it before anyone gets near a plane / theatre seat and those staff. Doesn't kill the root of the problem, in my opinion. There's an interesting contradiction going on because (going to be generalising here somewhat) if these people were isolated, on their own in that state they'd be ashamed of themselves and their actions, most likely not even going to the same extent in the first place. In groups of their peers though, there's a need to show off, to be the loudest, the bossiest, the pushiest. In groups, their sense of pride and self respect is replaced by some distorted disregard for everything but themselves. This is antagonised by the systemic sense of entitlement that everyone regards themselves with now and the decay of common manners throughout society. There's a bigger failing somewhere in society that in the last 15 years has contributed to and produced this, that alcohol only accentuates. In my opinion.
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Post by Xanderl on Jul 17, 2019 11:09:29 GMT
I guess this is what lies behind some theatres banning people bringing liquids into the theatre. In theory bars shouldn't sell alcohol to people who are visibly intoxicated, but ...
Didn't notice this chap behaving badly but there was a guy at a show I was at the other day, who sat down before the show with two large glasses of red wine. Assumed he was meeting someone but he necked them both in 20 minutes or so before the show. Not sure if he got himself more to take in, but I saw him at the interval wandering around with two more large glasses. This was a matinee incidentally.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 18:15:35 GMT
I guess this is what lies behind some theatres banning people bringing liquids into the theatre. In theory bars shouldn't sell alcohol to people who are visibly intoxicated, but ... Didn't notice this chap behaving badly but there was a guy at a show I was at the other day, who sat down before the show with two large glasses of red wine. Assumed he was meeting someone but he necked them both in 20 minutes or so before the show. Not sure if he got himself more to take in, but I saw him at the interval wandering around with two more large glasses. This was a matinee incidentally. I rather admire this...!
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Post by alece10 on Jul 17, 2019 19:05:22 GMT
The body worn camera pilot was featured on London Tonight in ITV. Said 7 theatres have been trialing their use for 6 months. They made quite a point in saying that when the camera is turned on the person being filmed can see themselves on the camera screen and see how they behaving as if to shock them. Doubt that will make much difference to the drunk audience member.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Jul 17, 2019 20:11:24 GMT
^This is frankly a disgrace...I thought I was unshockable but this just about takes the biscuit... Debt Collectors and PCSO's wearing them makes sense, I'm in favour of that. But seriously what has gone wrong with society when Ushers of Theatres are being asked to wear them for their own safety? This is where we know, for sure, something has gone far too wrong. I'd be really interested to know what Theatres are doing the trials, if that provides a clue as to audience demographics, etc. I have a feeling Jukebox Musicals attract the worst sorts and without wanting to distract from the severity of the topic, if it means banning all Jukeboxes I will happily sign that decree!
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Post by paulbrownsey on Jul 17, 2019 20:13:28 GMT
I have a feeling Jukebox Musicals attract the worst sorts and without wanting to distract from the severity of the topic, if it means banning all Jukeboxes I will happily sign that decree! Posters for jukebox musicals sometimes try to lure people in by saying things like "They were dancing in the aisles" (Whatsit Evening Express). Which encourages some members of the audience to think it's OK to behave as if they are at a party.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 18, 2019 5:59:44 GMT
So which are the 7 shows using body cams do you think?
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Post by Backdrifter on Jul 18, 2019 6:23:17 GMT
Though the fact this is happening on Friday and Saturday evenings makes me wonder if it's time for them to review their policies on sale and consumption of alcohol? Because surely promoting your bar being open 90 minutes to an hour before the start of the show is only going to help fuel these incidents. A fair enough thought but the determined hey-woo-yeah-party-time groups will just get tanked up beforehand.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 18, 2019 6:44:53 GMT
Who can afford to get tanked up in a theatre bar? I can barely stretch to a solitary strawberry cider.
Nah this lot are getting tanked up in the pub. Egging each other on and getting loud and obnoxious.
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Post by Rukaya on Jul 18, 2019 8:13:24 GMT
So which are the 7 shows using body cams do you think? The jukebox shows jump to mind straight away!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 18, 2019 8:28:36 GMT
I’m thinking Book of Mormon maybe?
Friends who saw it in Manc recently said the audience was a nightmare.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 18, 2019 15:06:28 GMT
There was torrential rain last night and I got the alert at 8:23. My first thought was how many shows had been disrupted!
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Post by Backdrifter on Jul 18, 2019 16:16:37 GMT
I can barely stretch to a solitary strawberry cider. Tesco Metro's wide selection of quality £1 a litre paint-stripping Ciders. The indignities being heaped upon cider here are just upsetting.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 19, 2019 3:44:32 GMT
The indignities being heaped upon cider here are just upsetting. I'd say the indignities being heaped on the apples that go into it are worse... Never mind the indignities; I'm concerned about @theatremonkey's health given the revelation of his intimate knowledge of bargain booze.
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