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Post by jess173 on Feb 28, 2019 10:44:51 GMT
Welcome to the world of German fandom. I invite you to sit through one of the super popular musicals here (coughtanzdervampirecough) to enjoy the whistlers, whoopers and hollerers in their full glory! Really? I haven’t encountered these kind of people in a long time. Especially not at Tanz der Vampire in Berlin lately. At the last couple of shows I’ve seen I was actually wondering if anyone in the audience was even awake. I don’t appreciate whistlers and hollerers either but the last crowds I’ve encountered were especially lame. Some of them even refused the now obligatory standing ovation in the end.
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Post by lakeside on Feb 28, 2019 16:57:21 GMT
Shoutout to the person behind me and the person next to me who decided to keep their mac/anorak and puffa jacket on for the entire two hours, which meant everytime they frequently moved *rustley scrapey rustling... rustley scrape rustle.. scrapey scrape scrape rustle*. It wasn't raining and it wasn't cold, why would you keep it on?!
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Feb 28, 2019 18:27:51 GMT
Shoutout to the person behind me and the person next to me who decided to keep their mac/anorak and puffa jacket on for the entire two hours, which meant everytime they frequently moved *rustley scrapey rustling... rustley scrape rustle.. scrapey scrape scrape rustle*. It wasn't raining and it wasn't cold, why would you keep it on?! One of my big bugbears. Similar, and just as bad, is their keeping something noisy, like a coat or a bag on their knee. As to why they kept it on, apart from this common or garden lack of awareness there may well be something more serious at play, sometimes a coat is a ‘comfort blanket’, making the wearer feel better about themself, sometimes a barrier to the outside world, separating the wearer from their surroundings. If it wasn’t just ignorance, maybe they were uneasy in their surroundings, were defensive on a personal level or didn’t really want to be there. At an extreme level, it can also be an indication of a deeper mental issue. Sometimes the coat is also the link to how they want to be perceived (working with students you get this at times), maybe because of the style, the way it affects their physical appearance. Remove it and the person feels attacked personally. None of that makes it easier to bear, though. Thinking too deeply about this.....
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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 28, 2019 19:14:39 GMT
As to why they kept it on, apart from this common or garden lack of awareness there may well be something more serious at play, sometimes a coat is a ‘comfort blanket’, making the wearer feel better about themself, sometimes a barrier to the outside world, separating the wearer from their surroundings. If it wasn’t just ignorance, maybe they were uneasy in their surroundings, were defensive on a personal level or didn’t really want to be there. At an extreme level, it can also be an indication of a deeper mental issue. I have OCD & don't like sitting in seats other people have sat in without a coat to act as a barrier, so at the theatre I sit in my coat & slip my arms out of the sleeves & it off my shoulders so I'm not too hot durng the performance, rather than take it off completely & leave it in the cloakroom or have it over my knee. In my defence I will say that I only ever wear coats made of non-rustling wool or cloth to the theatre, never noisy anoraks, & I do my best to keep my coat within the confines of my own seat.
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Post by lakeside on Feb 28, 2019 21:47:44 GMT
As to why they kept it on, apart from this common or garden lack of awareness there may well be something more serious at play, sometimes a coat is a ‘comfort blanket’, making the wearer feel better about themself, sometimes a barrier to the outside world, separating the wearer from their surroundings. If it wasn’t just ignorance, maybe they were uneasy in their surroundings, were defensive on a personal level or didn’t really want to be there. At an extreme level, it can also be an indication of a deeper mental issue. Sometimes the coat is also the link to how they want to be perceived (working with students you get this at times), maybe because of the style, the way it affects their physical appearance. Remove it and the person feels attacked personally. None of that makes it easier to bear, though. Thinking too deeply about this..... I have OCD & don't like sitting in seats other people have sat in without a coat to act as a barrier, so at the theatre I sit in my coat & slip my arms out of the sleeves & it off my shoulders so I'm not too hot durng the performance, rather than take it off completely & leave it in the cloakroom or have it over my knee. In my defence I will say that I only ever wear coats made of non-rustling wool or cloth to the theatre, never noisy anoraks, & I do my best to keep my coat within the confines of my own seat. Sorry I was half joking with that last comment. I was just thinking it's warm and dry, and we're not having a King Lear style rain storm on stage and sat in the 'you may be splashed' seats... I know there's lots of reasons why people might need to wear a coat/keep warm, someone I know with arthritis needs to keep warm to stop their joints hurting so I was there thinking along those lines whilst listening to the rustle. I do understand about mental health issues, and feeling secure and needing a barrier between yourself and other people especially in a tightly packed audience. My thing is that I'm overly sensitive and irritated by noise to the point where it distracts me so much I can't pay attention to what's going on on stage and take a pair of earplugs with me so if one side of me is being intolerable (chewing is the worst!) I can use one in one ear and at least block that out and be able to focus still hear the performance. Dawnstar, your non noisy coats are much appreciated! I'm sorry, I do understand about things like that I was just irritated by the rustling, not by people who wear coats!
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Post by missthelma on Feb 28, 2019 21:49:42 GMT
To the gentleman to my left this afternoon who felt the need to play with his sweet wrapper for what felt like four years but was probably only five minutes, Patti LuPone would have had you taken outside and flogged, I was dangerously close to launching myself across the auditorium and throttling you but thankfully someone closer to you made you stop.
To the person on my right, I appreciate that technology is a marvel and it is truly a wonder that all your texts WhatsApp and emails can be sent to your smart watch but it lights up every time this happens. Turn the mofo off. Thank you.
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Post by showgirl on Mar 1, 2019 5:09:31 GMT
To the gentleman to my left this afternoon who felt the need to play with his sweet wrapper for what felt like four years but was probably only five minutes, Patti LuPone would have had you taken outside and flogged, I was dangerously close to launching myself across the auditorium and throttling you but thankfully someone closer to you made you stop. To the person on my right, I appreciate that technology is a marvel and it is truly a wonder that all your texts WhatsApp and emails can be sent to your smart watch but it lights up every time this happens. Turn the mofo off. Thank you. The fidgeting/fiddling with something noisy so irritates me that I have to resist snatching the offending article from the person's hand. It reminds me of when I am driving and OH is in the passenger seat: he seems unable to sit still and starts rooting in the glove box, the side pocket, etc. In both instances I'm so tempted to say fiercely: "For goodness' sake, sit still and let me concentrate!"
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Post by NeilVHughes on Mar 1, 2019 5:55:19 GMT
A lady next to me at Equis last week had one or two clunky bracelets on and also a a bit of a fidget, it felt as if Inwas sitting next to Marley’s ghost, luckily one of my best Paddington hard stares did the trick and she calmed down.
Not exactly behaviour, at Cyprus Avenue the woman in front of me had her hair tied up and do see this regularly, in this instance she was quite short, the rake and offset of the seat meant it wasn’ an issue, is this a symptom of no self awareness or someone who doesn’t go to the Theatre very often.
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Post by Xanderl on Mar 1, 2019 9:27:36 GMT
In a tiny theatre the other night, heard rustling a couple of seats along, looked over and it was a guy making himself a roll-up ciggie so that he didn't have to wait 30 seconds or so after the show finished to have a smoke.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:45:21 GMT
Re: the coat issue. I think it's perfectly reasonable the original post because the issue wasn't 'person kept their coat on' (which is their business and generally not hurting anyone) but 'person's coat was super rustly and distracting' which goes for all manner of clothing choices (clangy bracelets I'm looking at you).
This is one of those fabulous instances where we're able to say 'hey we know some poeple have a need to do x but if they do it with y then it is an issue for other people' and it's the y not the x that we have an 'issue' with...anyway I'm now thinking too deeply about coats haha.
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 1, 2019 18:18:17 GMT
I know there's lots of reasons why people might need to wear a coat/keep warm, someone I know with arthritis needs to keep warm to stop their joints hurting so I was there thinking along those lines whilst listening to the rustle. I do understand about mental health issues, and feeling secure and needing a barrier between yourself and other people especially in a tightly packed audience. My thing is that I'm overly sensitive and irritated by noise to the point where it distracts me so much I can't pay attention to what's going on on stage and take a pair of earplugs with me so if one side of me is being intolerable (chewing is the worst!) I can use one in one ear and at least block that out and be able to focus still hear the performance. Dawnstar , your non noisy coats are much appreciated! I'm sorry, I do understand about things like that I was just irritated by the rustling, not by people who wear coats!
I hate audience noise too & find it very hard to block it out. If I was wearing anything rustly or clinking then I'd be at least as annoyed by it than anyone sat near me so you don't need to thank me for wearing non-noisy coats as I do it primarily for my own sake!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 11:30:34 GMT
In my defence I will say that I only ever wear coats made of non-rustling wool or cloth to the theatre, never noisy anoraks, & I do my best to keep my coat within the confines of my own seat. That is much appreciated Dawnstar and I do understand that you try to keep your coat within the confines of your seat but I wish everyone who sits on their coat or wraps it around them or leaves it on did the same. I absolutely HATE sitting in my seat and having other people's coats touching me. I will always push it into their seat and often they get the message but some people don't. It's frankly disgusting. If I wanted to wear their coat, I would steal it. Not exactly behaviour, at Cyprus Avenue the woman in front of me had her hair tied up and do see this regularly, in this instance she was quite short, the rake and offset of the seat meant it wasn’ an issue, is this a symptom of no self awareness or someone who doesn’t go to the Theatre very often. Oh that is most definitely bad behaviour. I loathe people who tie their hair up on top of their head and sit in front of me. Word of warning for anyone who does this to me, I WILL sneeze on the back of your neck. And it won't be an accident.
Keep the hair down and keep it to yourself. People who waft their hair around also make me vomit too.
Actually, thinking about it, people with long hair shouldn't even be allowed out in public if they can't keep it under control.
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Post by missthelma on Mar 2, 2019 13:41:38 GMT
What about tossers? Of hair obviously. On the bus, on the train, in a restaurant (vomit). I carry scissors now to deliver the appropriate lesson to such transgressers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 14:24:35 GMT
Cutting someone's hair without permission legally counts as assault. Getting your chewing gum stuck in it, though, that still seems to just be written off as an 'accident'...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 14:35:15 GMT
Cutting someone's hair without permission legally counts as assault. Getting your chewing gum stuck in it, though, that still seems to just be written off as an 'accident'... Equally spilling/dunking the offending hair into say a sticky beverage... Honestly though the types who also 'swoosh' their long hair into your face over the back of a chair...have some self- or hair- awareness?!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 15:15:24 GMT
Cutting someone's hair without permission legally counts as assault. Getting your chewing gum stuck in it, though, that still seems to just be written off as an 'accident'... Equally spilling/dunking the offending hair into say a sticky beverage... Honestly though the types who also 'swoosh' their long hair into your face over the back of a chair...have some self- or hair- awareness?! If their hair is hanging over the back of the seat in front of me, my knee somehow ends up pushed right up against the seat in front with hair trapped between knee and seat. There just isn't much legroom in these old theatres is there?
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Post by Jane Parfitt on Mar 3, 2019 14:21:12 GMT
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 4, 2019 8:48:02 GMT
Last night at the What's On Stage Awards a lady got a real lesson in phone/theatre etiquette from host Vicky Vox! Rest of audience didn't know whether to applaud or sink into their seats!
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Post by kimbahorel on Mar 5, 2019 9:12:34 GMT
Last night at the What's On Stage Awards a lady got a real lesson in phone/theatre etiquette from host Vicky Vox! Rest of audience didn't know whether to applaud or sink into their seats! I was reading on twitter and a couple of people have posted it was Celinde Schoenmaker because she was recording CHF or something. Not sure if it's actually true.
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Post by winonaforever on Mar 5, 2019 10:47:07 GMT
Last night at the What's On Stage Awards a lady got a real lesson in phone/theatre etiquette from host Vicky Vox! Rest of audience didn't know whether to applaud or sink into their seats! I was reading on twitter and a couple of people have posted it was Celinde Schoenmaker because she was recording CHF or something. Not sure if it's actually true. Yes it was Celinde!
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 5, 2019 11:36:31 GMT
Not really bad behaviour but.... On a rare (?) visit to the theatre last night I had a seat in the centre of a row. The row was already full - 15 minutes before the curtain! As I edged along the row an elderly woman reluctantly and huffily stood up and said to me "if you had arrived 5 minutes sooner I wouldn't be sat here". Quick as a flash I smiled and said " that's true and if you had arrived 5 minutes later I would have already been seated". Miserable old (insert word of choice).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 13:27:33 GMT
Couple on the front row at Phantom last Saturday night decided to start yabbering at the top of their voices in the middle of Kelly Mathieson singing Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again. The urge to tell them to get out and not to go to another show until they'd learned some basic etiquette (to shut your trap when someone is performing for you, especially when you're sat front row where they can most likely hear you) was overwhelming.
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Post by kathryn on Mar 5, 2019 18:52:20 GMT
Not really bad behaviour but.... On a rare (?) visit to the theatre last night I had a seat in the centre of a row. The row was already full - 15 minutes before the curtain! As I edged along the row an elderly woman reluctantly and huffily stood up and said to me "if you had arrived 5 minutes sooner I wouldn't be sat here". Quick as a flash I smiled and said " that's true and if you had arrived 5 minutes later I would have already been seated". Miserable old (insert word of choice). Universal law of the theatre: for at least one row of seats the person in the middle of the row will arrive last. Doesn’t matter how early you get there, or how late the rest of the row is. True fact.
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Post by beatrice on Mar 5, 2019 19:36:23 GMT
Last night at the What's On Stage Awards a lady got a real lesson in phone/theatre etiquette from host Vicky Vox! Rest of audience didn't know whether to applaud or sink into their seats! I mean maybe I'm showing my social-media-age, but I think there's a HUGE difference between a phone out during a show (NEVER) and filming a friend receive an award (Which I think is fine).
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Post by Xanderl on Mar 5, 2019 21:31:24 GMT
Yes, agree with that. Presumably they were encouraging people to tweet from the event anyway?
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Post by sophie92 on Mar 5, 2019 21:41:46 GMT
Last night at the What's On Stage Awards a lady got a real lesson in phone/theatre etiquette from host Vicky Vox! Rest of audience didn't know whether to applaud or sink into their seats! I mean maybe I'm showing my social-media-age, but I think there's a HUGE difference between a phone out during a show (NEVER) and filming a friend receive an award (Which I think is fine). In the Dress Circle, the ushers were being really vigilant about people taking photos/filming, but it doesn’t seem like that was the case in the Stalls because I saw so much content on social media from people sat in the Stalls. So it seems a little harsh that Celinde was called out in that way - I’m sure everyone who was there will have different feelings on it, for me it was a bit too harsh
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 9:07:01 GMT
Not really bad behaviour but.... On a rare (?) visit to the theatre last night I had a seat in the centre of a row. The row was already full - 15 minutes before the curtain! As I edged along the row an elderly woman reluctantly and huffily stood up and said to me "if you had arrived 5 minutes sooner I wouldn't be sat here". Quick as a flash I smiled and said " that's true and if you had arrived 5 minutes later I would have already been seated". Miserable old (insert word of choice). Universal law of the theatre: for at least one row of seats the person in the middle of the row will arrive last. Doesn’t matter how early you get there, or how late the rest of the row is. True fact. That's true. And it's usually me. I do it on purpose though for sports and giggles. I'm like Her Maj, I like seeing you all stand up for me when I arrive.
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Post by peggs on Mar 6, 2019 9:14:28 GMT
Universal law of the theatre: for at least one row of seats the person in the middle of the row will arrive last. Doesn’t matter how early you get there, or how late the rest of the row is. True fact. That's true. And it's usually me. I do it on purpose though for sports and giggles. I'm like Her Maj, I like seeing you all stand up for me when I arrive. Are we supposed to drop a curtsy as you go past @ryan?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 9:19:20 GMT
That's true. And it's usually me. I do it on purpose though for sports and giggles. I'm like Her Maj, I like seeing you all stand up for me when I arrive. Are we supposed to drop a curtsy as you go past @ryan ? You should if you know what's good for you, that would be lovely. I also rather like a tug of the forelock or even an over enthusiastic theatrical bow if you're that way inclined. I'm not a dictator about it, just so long as you demonstrate that you know your place in the pecking order.
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 6, 2019 11:22:42 GMT
Are we supposed to drop a curtsy as you go past Ryan? No, we are supposed to fall to our knees!
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