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Post by mrbarnaby on Dec 31, 2016 19:19:10 GMT
Watching this on BBC. Jeez it's as flat as a pancake. Surely it's funnier live? Tv does have the habit of killing live theatre.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Dec 31, 2016 19:29:20 GMT
So what is adapted and added for that Tv version? Is some of the set we saw just for the tv recording? As i struggled to see how some of that scenery and set changes could have been achieved in the theatre.
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Post by alece10 on Dec 31, 2016 19:34:18 GMT
There were some funny moments and great stunts. I laughed a few times. Bet it was much funnier on stage though
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Post by djp on Dec 31, 2016 19:38:14 GMT
Ok when it got going - tho shows the role of the warm up on stage. Tootles seems to have been denied most of her stutter - perhaps the BBC think its not PC emough.
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Post by Dawnstar on Dec 31, 2016 19:51:38 GMT
So what is adapted and added for that Tv version? Is some of the set we saw just for the tv recording? As i struggled to see how some of that scenery and set changes could have been achieved in the theatre. The sets are a kind of ramped up version of what is on stage, for instance more toys in the nursery, more cut-out London buildings for the first flying sequence, considerably more trees in Neverland, more rocks at the lagoon. The sets in the theatre all fit on the revolve, which they didn't for TV - as evinced by the fact that the revolve didn't get much of a look-in except at the end. Obviously the scene of the pirate ship crashing through other shows' sets doesn't happen in the theatre! I reckon we got about three-fifths of what is in the stage version, at a rough estimate. Lots of internal cuts in scenes. The underwater scene completely went, which I was expecting as I don't think it would work on TV. Interestingly, some of what londonmzfitz & I saw filmed at Pinewood didn't make it to screen, notably the pre-show speech by Chris & Robert that was filmed pretty much as it is on stage but obviously then got replaced by the behind-the-scenes bit at the beginning.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Dec 31, 2016 19:57:54 GMT
Tootles seems to have been denied most of her stutter - perhaps the BBC think its not PC emough. Or perhaps the BBC thinks that comedy should be funny? Well, probably they don't, on the evidence of this programme.
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Post by stevejohnson678 on Dec 31, 2016 21:23:47 GMT
It's great to see so many people being introduced to Mischief Theatre for the first time tonight. And while watching Peter Pan Goes Wrong on TV doesn't compare with seeing it live, a quick look at Twitter or Digital Spy shows that Mischief Theatre have gone down a storm. "Best thing I've seen all year" is the sort of comment being made over and over again. I was there almost from the start, watching The Play That Goes Wrong in a small space at Pleasance Courtyard during the Edinburgh Fringe in 2013 and it never gets old, seeing the success they've had and hugely deserve.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 21:50:14 GMT
What a complete load of bollocks this is on TV... Like a rip-off of Acorn Antiques with a cast of complete nobodies. Ridiculously unfunny.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 22:08:56 GMT
unfortunately this has put me off seeing the play that goes wrong. I enjoy a good farce but this wasn't nearly funny enough. it has its moments but I expected more. Noises Off it aint
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 22:15:30 GMT
I have seen the play that goes wrong and really enjoyed it and liked this as well. I watched it with my mum and dad who did not see the play that goes wrong and they enjoyed it. It was good fun and had different suprises. This is not serious and people should just enjoy it for what it is. If we compare everything o other things than it just seems pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 23:03:26 GMT
Laughed myself silly at this - I thought it made the move from stage to screen very well. Maybe the pirate-ship-on-the-loose ending was a bit OTT, though I totally understand the stage version wouldn't work. But I think the cleverness of the idea, and indeed the comic timing and energy of the cast, comes out brilliantly on the stage at that point, and it got a bit lost in the hubbub on screen.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Dec 31, 2016 23:03:43 GMT
If we compare everything o other things than it just seems pointless. Pointless is actually entertaining on tv.
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Post by danielwhit on Dec 31, 2016 23:25:31 GMT
I very much enjoyed it, however spent the entire performance thinking 'it's not as good as it is live'. unfortunately this has put me off seeing the play that goes wrong. I enjoy a good farce but this wasn't nearly funny enough. it has its moments but I expected more. Noises Off it aint I'll point out Noises Off on film is nowhere near as amusing as it is on stage either. And this isn't a direct translation of the stage version either. Farces don't translate to TV well at all, as you don't have that sense that anything really is at risk.
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Post by kathryn on Dec 31, 2016 23:39:11 GMT
We laughed our arses off.
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Post by deadyankee on Dec 31, 2016 23:42:39 GMT
We laughed our arses off. Same here. I'm perplexed by the ambivalence.
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Post by firefingers on Dec 31, 2016 23:42:42 GMT
Yeah, I found it bloody hilarious. Have one seen Play live, which may have helped. But working in live theatre means so much is beautifully familiar.
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Post by talkstageytome on Dec 31, 2016 23:56:56 GMT
Loved it, but without a doubt it was better in the theatre. I cried with laughter when I saw it live! The revolve in particular was disappointing compared to how it is in the show normally, but I still thought it was great fun.
A good incentive to see Mischief shows though.
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Post by crabtree on Jan 1, 2017 1:03:24 GMT
I'm hoping the live show is tremendous, but this just did not work on TV. Without the clever set up/other layer of Noises Off and Black Comedy, or the brilliant subtle observations of Acorn Antiques, this just seemed rather obvious but slick slapstick.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 1, 2017 2:04:18 GMT
The humour is too stupid for my liking, very mildly enjoyed all 3 of them. But more so for the ethos of the mischief theatre company and what they are about and how they started.
No doubt this will be great publicity for all 3 shows, I don't see the Duchess being free anytime soon.
So I hope they go from strength to strength here and in New York.
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Post by whygodwhytoday on Jan 1, 2017 2:19:39 GMT
I think the shots of the audience and the OTT laughter spoil it slightly x
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Post by critchyboy on Jan 1, 2017 8:54:07 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed it - laughed and laughed at the disaster unfolding on screen!!!
Would like to see more of Mischief Theatre and hope their productions tour up to my local theatre!!!
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Post by crabtree on Jan 1, 2017 11:18:28 GMT
Yep, as someone pointed out above, Noises Off, on film, was one of the most pointless and desperately unfunny experiences. Some things just have to be enjoyed live.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 12:17:10 GMT
I think the shots of the audience and the OTT laughter spoil it slightly x I take your point but interestingly for me, when you see Mischief live in theatres the audience are actually laughing far harder than the TV studio group seemed to. (You get people looking round at their friends to see if they're finding it all as hilarious as they are themselves, and then seeing their friends helpless with laughter, and then looking back at the stage - by which time the next daft thing has happened, and the audience is off in fits of giggles again.)
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jan 1, 2017 12:57:20 GMT
I was supposed to see this live in December but had to cancel the whole trip (which included two other shows) due to ill health. I was pleased to be able to see this still on TV, though having seen TPTGW live, i am tempted to still see this live before it closes because my thought is it will be far funnier live. Though i did enjoy this filmed version.
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Post by theatremadness on Jan 1, 2017 13:15:15 GMT
Well I feel sorry for the grumps on this board because I totally LOVED it. Me and my parents were all in constant fits of proper belly laughter throughout the whole thing. They really are masters of their craft - and the audience reaction was not OTT, it was completely real and genuine - I was there!
Twitter reaction has been quite incredible. One of the most overwhelmingly, unanimously praised bits of TV in 2016 that I can remember, I really & truly don't understand the negativity from some on this board, but I can't say I'm surprised, if there's anything negative to be said you'll be sure to find it on this board somewhere! When something is THAT good and 99% of people who watched agree, the problem must surely lie elsewhere than with the quality of the program itself.
Am hoping to go and see it live before their season at the Apollo is over but so glad to not only have been part of the studio audience for bits of it, but to have seen it in full & so glad it was as well done as it was and that it's gone down so well!
Here's to the next one - and Happy New Year to you all!
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Post by wickedgrin on Jan 1, 2017 13:56:01 GMT
I'm not a grump. I enjoyed the TV adaptation but it is FAR funnier in the theatre!
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Post by theatremadness on Jan 1, 2017 14:20:18 GMT
I'm not a grump. I enjoyed the TV adaptation but it is FAR funnier in the theatre! I meant those who out-and-out seemed to really not like it! And I know it's a pretty impossible task I guess, but I don't understand why they should even begin to be compared. They weren't filming the stage show for TV, they adapted the show as if it *was* a TV show, the 2 really have nothing to do with each other, other than source material! So many factors make a theatre experience better for many reasons. The atmosphere, the infectiousness of laughter around you, the fact that it's all happening live in front of you, that it's a full-length production, there are no cut-away's or pre-recorded scenes, and most importantly, if one's first experience of PPGW was watching it at the theatre, then you were watching the mayhem unfold not knowing what was coming next. To expect a TV version to re-create those feelings, on top of largely knowing what was going to happen next, is nigh-on impossible! I find you have to watch with two different heads, but like I say, I appreciate that it's much more easier said than done. But I guess we're a special breed of theatre geeks on this board aren't we (meant in the nicest possible way!!), the general public reaction has been phenomenal, which is all they could hope for really, so I hope this sees Mischief Theatre return to TV, maybe with something TV specific that they could never be able to do live on stage!
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Post by danielwhit on Jan 1, 2017 14:36:00 GMT
I completely agree theatremadness, although I will say I found some of the funniest elements from last night to be the extra jokes added in for TVness. The boat/pedalo/swimming pool routine, for instance. Although that probably says more about the fact I've seen this on stage several times, and therefore will always react to the "new stuff" more than anything else. But I refer to myself earlier on saying that farces never translate that well onto film (Noises Off being the best example of this).
I also agree that I hope they do end up on TV with a series specifically crafted for that medium. The transition here works well, and I'm sure it served as a great introduction for the core members of Mischief to understand the TV process (read The Stage's article for more about this), however I imagine something they devise specifically for TV will be even better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 14:51:14 GMT
Well I feel sorry for the grumps on this board because I totally LOVED it. Me and my parents were all in constant fits of proper belly laughter throughout the whole thing. They really are masters of their craft - and the audience reaction was not OTT, it was completely real and genuine - I was there! Twitter reaction has been quite incredible. One of the most overwhelmingly, unanimously praised bits of TV in 2016 that I can remember, I really & truly don't understand the negativity from some on this board, but I can't say I'm surprised, if there's anything negative to be said you'll be sure to find it on this board somewhere! When something is THAT good and 99% of people who watched agree, the problem must surely lie elsewhere than with the quality of the program itself. Am hoping to go and see it live before their season at the Apollo is over but so glad to not only have been part of the studio audience for bits of it, but to have seen it in full & so glad it was as well done as it was and that it's gone down so well! Here's to the next one - and Happy New Year to you all! 99% of people liking something generally doesn't transpose to greatness. And I wouldn't trust Twitter as far as I could throw is narsaccistic beak!
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Post by theatremadness on Jan 1, 2017 14:57:52 GMT
But why not? If people hate it that's a shame, but if something's good, it's good. I guess I know what you mean Mrs L, but twitter can be such a volatile place that when the vast majority of people come together to tweet positively about something, you know you've done that 'something' right! And when it's a mix of fans and newcomers who have expressed interest in going to see it live after watching it, it can only be a good thing.
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