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Post by scarletmood on May 15, 2024 0:35:26 GMT
George was a legend who had sold however many million records then. Olly is nowhere near what George was commercially or creatively. The key difference is that George Michael could actually sing live, wrote better songs, knew how to put on a show, wasn't consumed by his own ego, was humble and was witty enough to parody his own life and sexuality through his art without being crude. Other than that, it's a legitimate comparison. George was also a multi instrumentalist if anyone ever looks at what he played on his albums. I agree he could send himself up be it in his own videos or on a couple of Comic Relief sketches. I must admit that I wasn't the biggest George fan back in the 80's but relistening to his stuff after his sad passing made me realise how good he was.
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Post by amyja89 on May 15, 2024 7:33:16 GMT
Not to stray too far off topic, but You Have Been Loved by George Michael is one of the few songs that can actually bring me to tears when I listen to it.
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Post by shownut on May 15, 2024 7:39:38 GMT
Not to stray too far off topic, but You Have Been Loved by George Michael is one of the few songs that can actually bring me to tears when I listen to it. Oh yes. That and "My Mother Had A Brother". Tears.
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Post by NorthernAlien on May 15, 2024 8:35:16 GMT
George was a legend who had sold however many million records then. Olly is nowhere near what George was commercially or creatively. The key difference is that George Michael could actually sing live, wrote better songs, knew how to put on a show, wasn't consumed by his own ego, was humble and was witty enough to parody his own life and sexuality through his art without being crude. Other than that, it's a legitimate comparison. so.....given that my post was included in the original quoting embeds here.....my comparison was about the staging. I never said anything about any of those other things. It feels like I got piled on here, for what I felt was me just extending a point someone else had made in a post above mine. I don't know why some of these threads have become so unpleasant in the last few months, with people seemingly willing to leap on and maul other people's opinions, but it makes me want to spend a lot less time here.
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Post by scarletmood on May 15, 2024 11:35:29 GMT
The key difference is that George Michael could actually sing live, wrote better songs, knew how to put on a show, wasn't consumed by his own ego, was humble and was witty enough to parody his own life and sexuality through his art without being crude. Other than that, it's a legitimate comparison. so.....given that my post was included in the original quoting embeds here.....my comparison was about the staging. I never said anything about any of those other things. It feels like I got piled on here, for what I felt was me just extending a point someone else had made in a post above mine. I don't know why some of these threads have become so unpleasant in the last few months, with people seemingly willing to leap on and maul other people's opinions, but it makes me want to spend a lot less time here. Northern Allen - I certainly didn't intend to maul your post or feel that I have said anything negative about what you said. I do like some of Olly's Years and Years music and he was superb in It's A Sin. I was more appreciating what a great artist George was and remembering him. This is a fun and thoughtful forum which is well moderated so please don't feel the need not to post your own constructive thoughts and views.
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Post by ceebee on May 15, 2024 19:43:37 GMT
The key difference is that George Michael could actually sing live, wrote better songs, knew how to put on a show, wasn't consumed by his own ego, was humble and was witty enough to parody his own life and sexuality through his art without being crude. Other than that, it's a legitimate comparison. so.....given that my post was included in the original quoting embeds here.....my comparison was about the staging. I never said anything about any of those other things. It feels like I got piled on here, for what I felt was me just extending a point someone else had made in a post above mine. I don't know why some of these threads have become so unpleasant in the last few months, with people seemingly willing to leap on and maul other people's opinions, but it makes me want to spend a lot less time here. Hi NorthernAlien - I'm sorry if my comments came across as unpleasant or a pile on. It certainly wasn't my intention to single you out. My response was meant as a general comment, not a criticism of your view (which of course you are entitled to share). Genuinely, no harm was meant in my post so I apologise if it caused you concern.
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Post by crowblack on May 18, 2024 8:25:58 GMT
Apparently Nemo has had a girlfriend for the last five years - presumably is still with her - and 'came out as nonbinary' a few months ago. The 'queer nonbinary witch' (as she called herself in interviews) Bambi Thug, wearing a trans flag bikini, performed on stage with her longtime boyfriend. One does rather get the feel of 'spicy straights' giving themselves a rainbow wash for votes here.
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Post by eliza on May 18, 2024 10:21:43 GMT
Apparently Nemo has had a girlfriend for the last five years - presumably is still with her - and 'came out as nonbinary' a few months ago. The 'queer nonbinary witch' (as she called herself in interviews) Bambi Thug, wearing a trans flag bikini, performed on stage with her longtime boyfriend. One does rather get the feel of 'spicy straights' giving themselves a rainbow wash for votes here. Gender identity and sexuality aren't the same thing though. Identifying as non binary doesn't mean they can't still be attracted to their partners.
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Post by crowblack on May 18, 2024 12:38:02 GMT
Apparently Nemo has had a girlfriend for the last five years - presumably is still with her - and 'came out as nonbinary' a few months ago. The 'queer nonbinary witch' (as she called herself in interviews) Bambi Thug, wearing a trans flag bikini, performed on stage with her longtime boyfriend. One does rather get the feel of 'spicy straights' giving themselves a rainbow wash for votes here. Gender identity and sexuality aren't the same thing though. Identifying as non binary doesn't mean they can't still be attracted to their partners. 'Gender identity' is the more sexist and regressive rebranding of what we used to just call a personality or personal style in dress sense. I don't think it makes you oppressed or a freedom fighter in the way gay people who sometimes used the controversial word 'queer' had to be in the 80s.
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Post by scarletmood on May 18, 2024 13:01:12 GMT
I understand that non binary is clearly different to say asexual - a term you don't hear so much these days.Would the old fashioned transvestite who used to secretly dress up in his wife's clothes we used to hear about have been classed as a gender identity or maybe a fetish or a kink?
It's always good to learn how all the relevant terms fit in to what terms were previously used.
On a Eurovision theme 3 of the songs from last week charted in the top 40 yesterday and Olly recharted just outside of that.
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